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He Said, She Said

“One of the Greatest Gifts Leo Has Given Us Is…” | The Biggest Lessons We’ve Learnt From Our Son

He Said, She Said

Staying Relevant Productions

Parenting, Kids & Family, Ryan Libbey, Made In Chelsea, Fertility, Therapy, Surrogacy, Babies, He Said She Said, Lifestyle, Sam Thompson, Staying Relevant, Relationships, Pete Wicks, Relationship, Louise Thompson, Kids, Society & Culture

4.3888 Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

This week, Louise comes straight off the back of the BAFTAs with a very unexpected red carpet moment, bumping into someone from her past she hasn’t seen in over a decade....👀


Louise and Ryan then reflect on their individual moments with Leo over the weekend, and they share what they each learn from him. From the power of being silly, to slowing down and seeing the world through his eyes, they reflect on how much their son continues to teach them. Ryan also shares more on his weekly letters to Leo, and opens up about how a recent failure has shifted his perspective.


And finally, we get into a more serious conversation around the rise of the manosphere and voices like Clavicular, unpacking the world of looksmaxxing and the impact it’s having on teenage boys growing up online. We share our honest thoughts on the pressures, the damage, and what it means to raise children in the middle of it all.


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0:00.0

have we changed our deterrent or something at home because we're both smelling

0:10.7

i can't stop sweating at the moment i got a waft of you before he sat down i was like

0:16.6

jeez that's ripe but then i was like do you know what i can't even say anything because I'm also quite ripe at the moment.

0:23.1

Are you?

0:24.3

What do you mean, right?

0:25.3

You sound like we're a pair of bananas rotting.

0:29.0

It's easier when my body is trying to get rid of something, some sort of toxin or, I don't know.

0:34.1

But every now and again, thankfully it isn't every now and again,

0:38.4

I get quite smelly in the armpit area.

0:41.5

And I noticed that you're the same.

0:43.0

Our room, when we left last day, stanker feet.

0:46.6

Feet?

0:47.5

Yeah, it's not like a university dormitory.

0:50.9

This is a problem.

0:52.0

I think my sweating is down to the hormones because I've noticed the last 10 days

0:58.0

have been really bad.

1:00.7

Like, it's not just the smell.

1:03.1

What's my excuse?

1:03.6

Actually, they're like pouring.

1:05.1

It's like I've got a leak under my armpits.

1:07.6

I actually saw a video on TikTok yesterday and I think it was Talley getting

1:11.3

Botox under her armpits. Oh, that sounds really painful. I think that would be the cure for

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