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The Quanta Podcast

One of Nature’s Most Complex Molecular Machines

The Quanta Podcast

Quanta Magazine

Life Sciences, Science, Physics

4.7638 Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2026

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

At the center of little holes in cell nuclei is a mystery. Here, clumps of proteins wiggle disordered tails around like seaweed. They drive a molecular machine that moves countless molecules in and out of the nucleus efficiently, with little room for error. On this episode of The Quanta Podcast, host Samir Patel speaks with biology writer Yasemin Saplakoglu about how new high-def microscopy is revealing the intricacies of these nuclear pore complexes like never before. This topic was covered in a recent story for Quanta Magazine.  

Each week on The Quanta Podcast, Quanta Magazine editor in chief Samir Patel speaks with the people behind the award-winning publication to navigate through some of the most important and mind-expanding questions in science and math.

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0:00.0

It's easy enough for us to feel like we understand things like proteins or DNA or how cells are put together, at least in the abstract, functional biology class sense.

0:17.9

But the more I learn about how biology actually works, how life is assembled

0:22.5

from all these parts, the more baffled I am that any of this actually works. In a recent story in

0:28.2

Quanta about how crowded it is inside cells, we noted that there are an estimated 1 billion,

0:35.6

with B, biochemical reactions every second in each and every one of the

0:41.4

30-some trillion cells in our bodies. To me, that's every bit as mind-blowing as the idea that

0:47.3

there are a trillion galaxies out there in space. In fact, it's almost easier to figure out

0:53.5

things about those galaxies than it is to get a grip on the biochemical nonsense that's going on in ourselves.

1:04.0

Welcome to the Quanta podcast where we explore the frontiers of fundamental science and math.

1:11.3

I'm Samir Patel, editor-in-chief of Quanta magazine.

1:15.0

Our latest foray into this baffling complexity was a story by biology staff writer Yasmin

1:20.8

Saplicolu about a very complex molecular machine that's churning away in our cells every day and how much the latest

1:30.0

imaging technology is teaching us about it. The story was called Disorder Drives,

1:34.6

one of Nature's most complex machines, and Yasmin is here to tell us about it. Welcome back to

1:38.7

the show, Yasmin. Hi, thanks for having me back. So Yasmin, what's the big idea?

1:44.2

So the big idea is our quest to understand one of biology's most complex machines called

1:50.5

the Nuclear Poor Complex.

1:52.2

This is a machine that sits within the membranes of eukaryotic nuclei, letting in and

1:57.6

out certain molecules.

1:59.8

Okay.

2:00.5

Let's first establish a little bit about what goes on inside cells, and specifically

2:05.2

in the nucleus of a cell. So what's in a nucleus?

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