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I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

One Nation Under Paganism? with Pastor Lucas Miles

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.8 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

What if one of the greatest threats to Western democracy isn’t political—but spiritual? Pastor Lucas Miles, Senior Director of TPUSA Faith and author of the new book, 'Pagan Threat: Confronting America’s Godless Uprising', joins Frank to reveal how paganism and Marxism are working hand-in-hand to undermine biblical truth, family, and freedom in America. Tune in as they answer questions like:-- What is paganism?-- How do paganism and Marxism overlap in their rejection of God and pursuit of power?-- How are you being deceived by how words are used?-- Why does Marxism specifically target children and thrive on cultural conflict?-- How are pagan ideas being disguised under the label of “Progressive Christianity”?-- What simple question can expose who or what a Progressive Christian truly worships?-- What unites movements like pro-Hamas activism and radical LGBTQ ideology?-- What can Christians do to help people (especially the younger generation) get back to the truth?-- What are some key differences between TPUSA and TPUSA Faith?The future of the church and our great nation depends on our collective faithfulness to the truth and our unwavering commitment to the Kingdom of God. Be sure to grab a copy of 'Pagan Threat' to dig deeper and join the mission to combat spiritual and moral decline in the West.If you enjoyed this podcast episode PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIANITY BY SUPPORTING OUR MINISTRY USING THE LINK BELOW. 100% of your donation goes to ministry, 0% to buildings!Resources mentioned during the episode:Donate to CrossExamined - https://donor.crossexamined.org/ (https://donor.crossexamined.org/)Nfluence Church (Granger, IN) - https://nfluencechurch.org/ (https://nfluencechurch.org/)Lucas' website - https://lucasmiles.org/ (https://lucasmiles.org/)TPUSA Faith - https://tpusafaith.com/ (https://tpusafaith.com/)Pagan Threat by Lucas Miles - https://a.co/d/3erSR1w (https://a.co/d/3erSR1w)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen, you've probably heard the term paganism. It's sort of an older term.

0:08.2

What does it mean? And is paganism really a threat to Christianity? Is it really a threat to America?

0:15.9

And what about Marxism? What about the two together? What about this? What should we think about it? How do we protect ourselves and our kids from ideas that are not only false, but poisonous to a functioning society, to a functioning community, and ultimately to the gospel? Well, for that, I'm going to bring my friend the great Lucas Miles on the program

0:38.8

because he's just written a book forward by Charlie Kirk called Pagan Threat, Confronting

0:45.6

America's Godless Uprising. And Lucas has written several books, including woke Jesus and others.

0:55.8

He is a pastor in South Bend, Indiana, but he also serves as the president of T.P. USA.

1:02.1

Faith. He's been on the program before. We just did the University of Georgia together last

1:07.0

week doing Q&A. Here he is. The great Lucas Miles. Lucas, shut up, crowd, shut up. Okay,

1:15.0

there they go. Lucas, we had a great time at Georgia, despite it was a bit somber since this is the

1:21.3

first event we've done since Charlie. What did you think of the questions we got the other day at

1:25.9

Georgia? You know, it's interesting. We used to do these events, obviously, more outside, and we've moved them inside for the time being.

1:33.1

It's changed maybe a little bit of the type of crowd that we get.

1:37.3

You know, for the most part, we're getting a lot of people who are very positive towards Christianity, towards biblical ideas.

1:46.4

You know, a couple people that maybe are approaching the mic with some divergent, you know, questions. But overall, a lot of support right

1:52.2

now, but honestly, eager to get back out into the public square as much as possible where some

1:57.9

of those naysayers are, because that's where I love the dialogue.

2:07.7

Oh yeah, absolutely. And it was a fun dialogue. We didn't really have a whole bunch of skepticism. I've noticed since Charlie's death, we're getting a lot more questions on evangelism and how to

2:11.6

bring other people into the faith than we are skepticism. We had a few skeptical questions at

2:16.1

Western Carolina when I was there a week

2:18.7

after Charlie's death, but most of them have been really positive, as you say, there's more

2:24.0

Christians showing up who want to do something for Christ, which is really, really good news.

2:30.0

Now, before we get into the pagan threat, how did you get connected with TPSA? How did Charlie even know about you?

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