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I'm going to be speaking now with a person I adore and I've had on the show many times in the course of my career.

One of the clearest thinkers writing, he's a freedom scholar at the Foundation for Defense of Democracy, he's the author of many books of his own.

Now this you'll find, I think, of particular interest. His last book, The Field of Fight,

How He Can Win the Global War against Radical Islam and its allies,

which obviously is particularly relevant today, was written co-authored with a man named

Michael Flynn.

My other man that I have on the phone is Michael Laddein.

Michael, welcome back.

Thank you, Dennis.

Good to be with you. You're one of those however that I generally talk to when something terrible happens in the world

at least on the air not privately

Other than that we get to talk about your love of Italy. Yeah

All right, so I let let me be personal for a moment, and you'll be as personal as you feel comfortable

being, but I assume you developed a certain camaraderie with Michael Flynn writing a book with him.

So I assume this whole saga right now almost pain you.

Oh yeah, kill us thing and and of course following the so-called news coverage

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