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Pantsuit Politics

On Trump, China, and Romance

Pantsuit Politics

Sarah & Beth

Society & Culture, Politics, News, News Commentary

4.64.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

It’s not lost on us that we are taking a more unique approach to the second Trump administration than many other creators. On today’s show, Sarah and Beth explain some of the thinking behind their approach - including why we want to make space for conversations like the next one on today’s show. We share a fabulous conversation with Jane Perlez about China - its economy, its use of surveillance techniques, and its potential future. Plus, it’s Valentine’s Day, so outside of politics, we’re talking romance!

Topics Discussed

  • Why We’re Talking About China

  • Jane Perlez on China’s Economy, Surveillance, and Future

  • Outside of Politics: Valentine’s Day and Romance

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0:00.0

Lemonada.

0:02.7

This is Sarah Stewart Holland.

0:14.3

This is Beth Silvers.

0:15.9

You're listening to Pantsuit Politics.

0:17.9

Today we're going to share a conversation we have with Jane Perliz, a long-time

0:21.2

foreign correspondent and former Beijing Bureau Chief for the New York Times. Jane now hosts the podcast

0:25.6

Face Off, which is focused on China and just launched its second season. Outside of politics,

0:30.9

it's Valentine's Day, y'all. So we're going to talk about romance. And since it's Valentine's Day,

0:36.2

we just want to share, again, our love for all of you

0:39.1

who listen to our show, especially the people who join our substack community. I have been

0:43.6

floored this week by comments to an episode that I made there about dating and online dating

0:49.5

and the apps. It's really all I can think about right now. And that kind of vulnerability that you all share

0:55.8

with us just makes this job one of the best on earth. So thank you so much. Before we get to Jane,

1:02.4

we did want to share some of our thinking about why this conversation about China felt important.

1:09.4

So that is up next.

1:13.6

Hi, I'm Erica Badan.

1:15.2

I'm the CEO of Food 52.

1:17.6

I used to be the CEO of Barstool Sports.

1:20.5

And I am very excited that I'm launching a podcast.

1:26.2

This is a new podcast that navigates the highs, lows, and in-betweens of that very thing that consumes all of our days.

1:28.7

Work.

1:29.0

Join me every week as I candidly share my thoughts on what's great about work, what's

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