On To the Next One | What's Next For Ilia Topuria After UFC 317?

MMA Fighting

Vox Media Podcast Network

Sports News, Sports, News

4.6 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Ilia Topuria is the new UFC lightweight champion after viciously knocking out Charles Oliveira in the main event of UFC 317 on Saturday night in Las Vegas. Topuria faced off with rival Paddy Pimblett following the victory, and while it may not be the meritocratic way to go about things, is this the fight to make for Topuria's first title defense? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee discuss what's next for Topuria after winning his second divisional UFC world title, along with who Oliveira could face in his next outing. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for flyweight champ Alexandre Pantoja and Kai Kara-France following Pantoja's submission win, Joshua Van after his win over Brandon Royval in a Fight of the Year contender, along with fellow main card winners Beneil Dariush, Payton Talbott, and more. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AlexanderKLee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:20.4	Welcome to a brand new edition of On to the next one.
1:23.4	Yes, the matchmaking crowns are back after a memorable, very fun, storyline-filled UFC 317 event international fight week delivers in absolute spades.
1:37.3	I think unquestionably the best card of 2025 so far.
1:41.9	We have a brand new lightweight champion of the world. Lots of options for
1:46.8	Ilya, Alexander Pantosia might actually be the best pound for pound fighter in the world.
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