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On To the Next One: What's Next For Arman Tsarukyan, Ian Machado Garry After UFC Qatar?

MMA Fighting

Vox Media Podcast Network

Sports News, Sports, News

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Arman Tsarukyan believes he has done enough to challenge Ilia Topuria for the UFC lightweight title following his incredible performance against Dan Hooker in the main event of UFC Qatar. Will the UFC reward Tsarukyan with a title shot, or will Tsarukyan have to wait and watch Paddy Pimblett get the shot at Topuria first? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee discuss what could be next for Tsarukyan after submitting Dan Hooker in Saturday's main event. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for Ian Machado Garry after defeating former welterweight champ Belal Muhammad in the co-main event, along with fellow main card winners Volkan Oezdemir, Myktybek Orolbai, Waldo Cortes-Acosta, Kyoji Horiguchi, and more. Plus, a slew of listener matchmaking suggestions to close out the show. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AlexanderKLee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Well, hello there everybody and welcome to a brand new edition of on to the next one yes the

1:20.7

matchmaking crowns have returned following ufc catar a fight night event in doha. It was the UFC's first appearance in the area.

1:32.3

And I have to say, it was a very good card. I enjoyed it. We had all different kinds of emotions,

1:38.7

happiness, sadness, what the hell are we watchings? Heavyweighty, heavyweight MMA. I mean,

1:44.0

we had it all high stakes

1:45.8

fights lots to talk about especially from a matchmaking perspective and that is why we are here

1:50.8

once again i am mike heck and joining me as always is the co-host the co-matchmaker the prince

1:56.8

of positivity and my best friend alexander kaley aka how are we doing on this sunday morning we're doing, you know, sorry, let me re-visage my mic here, guys. I know I had it a weird angle. What's up, my best friend? Yeah, we're doing great, man. We're doing great. What a fun show. What a nice way. It was like, you know, early, early day, like 10 in the morning for us on the East Coast. Sorry for you, West Coasters, probably a little bit earlier. And I'm not exactly sure what time it depends on people watching all over the world. But I mean, us on the over in North America, we were very happy for like a little bit of an earlier show. And we were pretty optimistic about this one on paper, Mike. We were all saying this is what fight night cards would look like, create matchups,

2:35.9

meaningful contender stakes, all that stuff. Promising undercard, like I think we were a little, you know, there's some names on the prelims that I think a lot of us were that are like, okay, well, we're not sure, you know, some of these people had one, two, three fights in the UFC. but even then there was some intrigue there and some entertaining fights.

2:50.7

So I think you see the team that should be really happy with how this card turned out. We have some questions. I mean, we've got some questions coming out of it. But I will say, I think the guys who had to step up, for the most part, Mike, did so in a meaningful way. but I think that us and the community are, you know, we're not in the same pace as far as like how, how much did these guys step up? How far did they step forward in the contender line? Apparently up for debate, very up for debate. Yeah. And look, this has been a good stretch. And, you know, there are a couple of weeks there where just like oh this is so bad this is so brutal

3:25.8

and people were like oh you guys just whine and cry and are so negative but now we're in

3:32.0

like a good stretch we had 322 which is really good i know the last two fights aren't weren't

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