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MMA Fighting

On To the Next One: Matches To Make After UFC Paris

MMA Fighting

Vox Media Podcast Network

Sports News, Sports, News

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Nassourdine Imavov delivered in the main event of UFC Paris, putting him in pole position to challenge newly crowned middleweight champion Khamzat Chimaev. But did he do enough to cement the spot or will the upcoming Reinier de Ridder vs. Anthony Hernandez matchup provide a true No. 1 contender? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee discuss what's next for Imavov after defeating fellow top contender Caio Borralho. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for Benoit Saint Denis after he ran through Mauricio Ruffy in the lightweight co-main event, Modestas Bukauskas after he retired Paul Craig to win his fourth straight fight, along with fellow main card winners Mason Jones, Axel Sola, William Gomis, and more. All that, plus listener picks to close out the show. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠@m_heckjr Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe:⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:52.7

Yes, the matchmaking crowns are back following UFC Paris, following a little hiatus.

1:56.1

UFC had a rare weekend off last week. We did at Misfits Boxing 22, but we can't match make misfits boxing 22. And then we had a show

2:03.8

two weeks ago, but it was without my best friend. And it's going to be great to reintroduce him to

2:10.5

the program. It's great to have him back. And it's great to be with you all. I am Mike Heck and joining

2:14.6

me once again, the co-host, the co-matchmaker, the Prince of Positivity.

2:19.4

And my best friend, gosh darn it. Welcome back to on to the next one, Alexander Cayley, aka, how are we doing, buddy? What an introduction. I'm back, my best friend. I'm back. Great to see you. Great to see you. Thank you to Jedmishu, by the way. H.M.S.U. did an excellent job, as usual, filling in as an otto-mashmaker. So I couldn't have done a better job myself. I thought some of his picks were very inspired, and, you know, he brought his usual pizzazz and brilliance to the show. So thanks guys, thanks for guys for holding that down. Yes, I was on a little vacation in Italy, northern part of Italy. It was beautiful.

2:51.0

It was a bit of a rush.

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