Welcome to Emergence Magazine's podcast. I'm Emanuel Vaughn Lee, host of this show,

an executive editor of Emergence Magazine, located on the unseated ancestral lands of the

Coast Miwok people in present-day Marin County. Each week, we feature interviews, stories,

poetry, and author-narrated essays, exploring the threads connecting

ecology, culture, and spirituality. What has always moved me about the work of poet Jane

Herschfield is the palpable, abiding love for the world that infuses everything she writes and says.

Mystical and beautiful, yet profoundly grounded in the every day.

Her poems open the heart to discover wonder and awe in both the sacred and the mundane.

A bucket is as imbued with the divine as an old-growth forest.

The presence of birdsong holds as much mystery as the

passage of time. Next week, we'll begin to publish work from our latest print edition

on the theme of seasons. But before we do, I wanted to return to one of the conversations

from our exploration on time with Jane, who has contributed a wonderful poem to our

latest edition on seasons, and who I'll be in conversation with at her upcoming U.S. launch event

with Pointe Ray's books in a couple of weeks.

My interview with Jane remains one of my most cherished, and I am continually moved by the depth

of her humility and the sense of intimacy between self and world that she speaks to here and within her poems.

We talk about the genesis of the poem Time thinks of Time,

and how her Zen practice and experiences of timelessness and meditation

have led her to embrace the largeness of time's mystery.

Alongside reciting several of her poems,

she speaks with great feeling on the importance of a certain quality of attention

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