Welcome to Emergence Magazine's podcast. I'm Emanuel Vaughn Lee, executive editor of Emergence

magazine, located on the unseated ancestral lands of the Coast Mewalk people of present-day

Marin County. Each week, we feature a new interview, narrated essay, or story, exploring the threads connecting ecology, culture, and spirituality.

In late 2019, just prior to the pandemic, I traveled to Iceland, where I interviewed Andrei Sniere Magneson,

a prolific Icelandic writer, documentary filmmaker, an environmental activist.

It was a wide-ranging conversation, but one that centered around his most recent book,

on Time and Water, where Andre explores our relationship to time in an age of ecological

crisis. With Iceland having lost its first large glacier, the Uck Glacier, in 2019,

Andre spoke about the ways in which geological time is beginning to move at the speed of human time.

Andre, you've had quite a varied career as a writer, an environmental activist, and even running for president of Iceland. Yes.

And your work as a writer is just as varied, from poetry and children's books to science fiction and nonfiction.

Yet, running through all of your work is the desire to take on big issues.

Consumerism, the hubris of technology, climate change, and recently you've been writing about time, both in the

Casket of Time and Now in your most recent book on Time and Water.

And the books are really very different.

Casket of Time being a fantastical young adult novel and Time and Water being a work of nonfiction that's deeply

personal and an exploration of the environmental crisis and yet time connects them and not just in

their titles what is it that has drawn you to write about time? Why is it so important to you?

The casket of time and on time and water, they are kind of siblings, creative siblings, you could say.

They both come out of kind of experiencing time now having left geological speed or nature having left geological speed and starting to change in human speed.

About our reactions to this environmental crisis are on a geological level.

On contrary to what we have been doing in technology and progress and change during the 20th century,

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