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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.76.6K Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2021

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Recorded in anticipation of the change of government that Israel has undergone, Jonah brought back one of his oldest friends Tevi Troy, now a fresh face at the Bipartisan Policy Center. The pair discusses the differences between our chaos-filled presidential system and Israel’s chaos-filled parliamentary system, Bibi Netanyahu’s legacy, and why, in a world filled with limitless technological delights, Hollywood’s blockbuster movies are just so bad. Show Notes: -Tevi’s new gig -How do different democracies pick their head of state/government? -“Jimmy’s my Jewish friend” -Tevi describes what to expect from a Democratic White House’s relationship with Israel -New coalition government ousts Netanyahu -Recent antisemitic attacks look like images from Europe, not America -Bari Weiss’ book, How to Fight Anti-Semitism -Jonah on structural antisemitism -Tevi’s case for optimism -The Fish of Monte Cristo -Tevi’s book, Shall We Wake the President? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. Obviously, it's me. I just wanted to let you know that we recorded this episode last week.

0:07.0

It holds up absolutely fine. We covered a lot of territory, but there's one bit where we weren't talking as if BB Netanyahu had in fact been officially ousted from the Prime Minister ship and leadership.

0:24.0

And so I just didn't want people to think that we didn't know that. It's just that due to the vagaries of the space time continuum, we couldn't know it when we recorded it.

0:34.0

So I'm acknowledging that here. I think you'll enjoy the conversation and thanks for listening.

0:50.0

Can I please have your attention?

1:01.0

Thank you, Jiggy.

1:17.0

I'm going to come to check out our freewares and then kick the tires a little bit and then maybe come decide to become a paid member of the dispatch community.

1:27.0

We think you'll be glad you did. All right. So today we have a return guest who volunteered his services.

1:35.0

There's no video recording of this tab, but he just waved at me. I'm, of course, oh, he's holding up five fingers because this is his fifth appearance. I think that's my reading of the semiotics of the situation.

1:49.0

And so he gets his goal jacket. We're still in the process of working out what the goal jacket is going to look like.

1:58.0

And hopefully at some point we'll get him to the point where he gets the sandwich named after him because even though he's a memory service lactose intolerant and kosher, he is a student of the fine cuisines of my people and would probably come up with something good, not that that may own American thing or whatever was the guarantee was talking about.

2:24.0

But also, Ted's got a new job. Anyway, Tubby Troy, welcome back to the round.

2:30.0

Thanks for having me. I've been clearing space in my closet for the goal jacket, which I'm excited about. I did indeed hold up five fingers as a signal privately to you last time. I also tried to help you out on the video that I know that other people are not seeing.

2:43.0

So I won't give you anymore clues that way. And in terms of lactose intolerant and kosher, not a problem because you can't mix milk and meat. So I can give you a great kosher sandwich that you can name after me that won't have any cheese products and will be fine for me to eat and everyone to enjoy fair enough.

2:59.0

Fair enough, I do remember back in the old days, you having cheese free pizza, which was sort of the culinary equivalent of one hand clapping. I just never really got my head around it. And you are, you're now, you've got a new gig at, at tell me what your new title is.

3:15.0

I don't want to butcher it.

3:16.0

I'm a senior fellow at the bipartisan policy center.

3:19.0

And I'm focusing on the presidency as you know, an interest in mine. And I think both sides, all parties, everyone has an interest in maintaining and protecting the presidency as an important American institution and a protector against anti democratic tendencies from the left and the right.

3:36.0

So go presidency and let's see if we can make the presidency work for us going forward in a good way.

3:42.0

I was since you brought it up and people should know, taboo's written a bunch of books, he's sort of presidential historian, he also does, he worked for George W. Bush and a number of capacities. And I'm not going to call you a

3:58.0

Craven, Lixbittal and the luxury of power or anything like that, but could, could we perhaps argue that the presidency's gotten too powerful?

4:07.0

Absolutely. Okay. Yeah, it has gotten too powerful. I think what I'm trying to argue for is the appropriate role of the presidency in our constitutional system.

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