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It's the Sound of Young America. I'm Jesse Thorn. My guests on the program are the hosts of the WNYC, produced in National Public Radio, distributed news and news industry analysis program on the media. Bob Garfield, also a critic for ad age.

And the author of several books, Brooke Gladstone, National Public Radio, veteran. Guys, welcome to the Sound of Young America. It's really great to have you.

Thanks.

Thank you, ever so much.

Was that sarcastic, Bob?

That's the problem with Bob. Is he always sounds sarcastic, even when he's serious. I just want to say about the introduction that it's frustrating that I have no other marketable skills except radio.

You said veteran, I would say legend.

Yeah, right.

Now, as I understand it, the two of you first worked together when Brooke, you were Bob's editor when you were in the pre on the media days.

What was Bob like to work with then, Brooke?

He was much more malleable. You see, I was the senior editor of all things considered. And, you know, Bob realized that he had to sell his story every time.

And since, as he says, I was perhaps the only editor who really understood his sense of humor, he wanted to get along.

So, you know, I could crush him under my stiletto and he'd take it. Now, God, now he just insists on fighting back.

What was it like for you, Bob?

I don't recall. You saying that Brooke and I had met earlier?

1987, I believe.

Jesse, I don't even know what I had for breakfast this morning. I do vaguely remember, I do remember a raven haired beauty who sat in the editor's chair.

Who was the only editor, actually, that I've ever had who I could not trick by papering over holes in stories with clever writing and other sort of Jim cracks.

She instantly found the holes.

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