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This Wreckage

On the Irish Question w/ Foreign Agent

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Music, Arts

4.2970 Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2022

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

We continue our discussion with Nate Lavey and Michael McCanne of Novara Media's Foreign Agent podcast about the IRA's support in America, first about the stereotype of Irish cops, then about Friedrich Engels' derogatory treatment of Irish immigrants to the UK in his 1845 Condition of the Working class in England.

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Yeah, I mean like, you know, when we were working on the story, working on the series, you know, it became clear that Irish cops were in and around Irish Northern Aid, you know, quite a bit.

0:15.0

And Martin Galvin, who is the publicity director of Norway,

0:19.0

told us that they, you know, they held this sort of funeral march for Bobby Sands, who was an IRA

0:26.0

volunteer who died on hunger strike in the 80s in Manhattan, or he died on hunger strike

0:32.0

in Northern Ireland, but the funeral procession happened in Manhattan,

0:33.0

but the funeral procession happened in Manhattan.

0:36.0

And he describes these cops saluting as the procession went by,

0:42.0

which is interesting, right?

0:44.3

Because in Northern Ireland, the struggle that Bobby Sands in particular

0:49.4

was involved in was whether or not Irish volunteers being held in prison were political. in

0:53.3

was whether or not Irish volunteers being held in prison were political prisoners or if they

0:56.0

were common criminals and the position of the British government of course is that

0:59.9

they were common criminals so you have these Irish cops saluting,

1:04.0

you know, somebody who's deemed a common criminal

1:07.2

by the British government, you know,

1:09.6

in large numbers, you know, going through Lorne lower Manhattan.

1:15.0

Also saluting someone who's part of an organization where targeting the police in Northern Ireland was a perfectly legitimate and a priority.

1:26.5

They often are shot, you know, the RUC officers in Northern Ireland.

1:33.0

So this was like really strange juxtaposition.

1:36.5

We saw, we couldn't like confirm this,

1:38.8

but there was supposedly the British government complained because they said that Nore had set up

1:44.7

donation boxes in some of the NYPD precincts so that the cops were like

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