On the Ground in Ukraine

Deconstructed

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🗓️ 23 June 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

This week, Russia accused Ukraine of striking a bridge that connects mainland Ukraine with the Crimean Peninsula. This is amid the emerging counteroffensive by Ukraine attempting to push back Russian troops. This week on Deconstructed, Ryan Grim is joined by Amed Khan, who has 20 years of experience funding and implementing humanitarian relief. Khan is currently based in Ukraine, where he has been seeing the war’s destruction firsthand. Grim and Khan discuss the recent developments in the war and Khan’s experiences working in Ukraine.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Deconstructed, I'm Ryan Grim.
0:06.6	The war in Ukraine recently entered the much anticipated phase of the second counteroffensive
0:11.0	by Kiev.
0:12.2	The last one was a startling success, gobbling up territory that had been seized during
0:16.5	the Russian invasion and giving the West hope that against all odds, the Ukrainians might
0:21.0	be able to drive Russian forces back.
0:23.7	The second counteroffensive has gone nowhere near as well, with the Kiev independent, a
0:28.2	news outlet highly loyal to the Ukrainian government, recording a pause and a reassessment
0:32.2	of strategy.
0:33.3	With Putin's mobilization of hundreds of thousands of draftees and his overwhelming
0:36.8	supply of artillery, Ukraine can't handle a war of attrition.
0:40.7	Meanwhile, Putin recently unveiled what he said was a tentative peace agreement reached
0:44.8	back in March 2022, in which Russia agreed to retreat to the territory it held before
0:49.8	February 23rd of that year, which would give it control of significant parts of the
0:54.0	Donbass and also Crimea.
0:56.1	In exchange, Ukraine would agree not to join NATO and to downsize its military, but would
1:01.0	enter into security agreements with the U.S. and other U.S. countries.
1:04.9	Around that same time, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was sounding hopeful about
1:09.9	a peace deal.
1:10.9	Here's a report from March 16th, 2022, on Democracy Now, which also references an exchange
1:16.2	I had at the time with then-white House Press Secretary Jen Psaki.
1:20.3	So I wanted to ask you about the state of negotiations to end this war.
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