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This is the Tom Hartman program.

Phil Idner is on the line with this veteran war correspondent currently in Kiev, Ukraine,

his Twitter handle is Philip PHILIP, ITTNER, Philip with one L, Idner with two T's.

Phil, welcome to the program. How is everything right now in Kiev?

Well done, firstly, thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk to your audience about what's

happening here in Ukraine and give. I've been coming here for 21 years and I'm living here now

and going through this winter with the Ukrainians. And I can tell you it's difficult,

I'm not going to mince words here, but we are surviving. We are making do, we have candles and we

try and make sure that we have provisions just in case the power or the water or the heating does

go off. People are expecting an attack soon, a significant one that may knock out power for quite

some time. And so they're making provisions for that. The attitude and the morale of the people

is still very high. They're determined to resist Russian attacks. I can just tell you from

speaking with pretty much every Ukrainian that I encounter that this is being counterproductive.

It's only strengthening their resolve to resist the Russians.

Well, how big is Kiev? How many people live there? How many people are still there? And what's life

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