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On the Ground in Iowa: The Race for Second Place

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News, Politics

4.587.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Less than two weeks before the caucuses, Tommy heads to Iowa to spend a few days going to campaign events, talking with voters, and taking the pulse of the race for second place. He attends two Ron DeSantis events—and learns the Florida governor is as boring as everyone says—interviews Vivek Ramaswamy on his campaign bus, and sneaks into a Nikki Haley event. With just a few days of campaigning to go, do any of these candidates have the momentum to beat expectations in Iowa and defeat Donald Trump?

 

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0:00.0

We're in Des Moines. It's great here. We're excited. We're driving to a Ron Desantis event where we may or may not get let it.

0:09.0

We're heading to Wauquis, which is kind of a Western suburb of Des Moines.

0:15.0

We're going to go see if Ron Desantis will let us into his little caucus event.

0:19.0

What do you predict will happen?

0:21.0

I predict that a stuffy Republican

0:25.9

staffer in khakis who looks

0:29.2

uncomfort like me will deny us entry once we tell them we're from the crooked media which in

0:36.1

hindsight was not you know the smartest name for a company if you want to go to

0:39.8

events like this is

0:43.0

is Tommy Vittor and I'm on the ground in Iowa.

0:46.0

This is episode 2, the race for second place. In the first episode of this series we talked about the inevitability problem.

1:04.0

The polls have Donald Trump so far ahead of everyone else that it feels like it's not a question

1:08.3

of if but when he's going to win the nomination.

1:11.7

The other candidates seem to have all but given up on the idea of

1:14.6

winning Iowa and instead of taking on Trump directly has spent the bulk of the

1:18.8

campaign attacking each other, battling it out for silver.

1:22.9

On January 15th, we will find out for sure.

1:26.0

But I wanted to get a firsthand look at the campaign frenzy that happens in the last few weeks

1:30.0

before Caucus Day, when many of Iowa's voters are finally making up their minds.

1:35.0

So last week I spent three days on the campaign trail, along with two producers, Caroline

1:39.2

and Lacy.

1:40.2

While we were there, Ron DeSantis, Nicki Haley, Vivek Ramaswami, and Donald Trump were

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