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On Health

On the Big Letdown: A Radical Conversation on Birth and Breastfeeding with Kimberly Seals Allers

On Health

Aviva Romm

Health & Fitness, Arts, Alternative Health, Medicine

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Content Warning: In this episode, we will be talking about maternal mortality, infant mortality, and the impact of racism on maternal health. 60% of all maternal deaths are fully preventable, and the complications women experience are not inherent to black or brown bodies. Yet Black and Brown women have been blamed for their "bad outcomes" instead of recognizing that these deaths all too often have to do with failures in the obstetric system. In the US today, a Black woman is 12 times more likely to die of childbirth than a white woman, despite socioeconomic factors. Today on the On Health podcast, I am having a very real and much-needed discussion on the racial disparities in the business of birth, the demand for change, how we can better celebrate Black birthing people, and more, with Kimberly Seals Allers. She is an award-winning journalist, five-time author, international speaker, strategist, and advocate for maternal and infant health. A former senior editor at ESSENCE and writer at FORTUNE magazine, she is also a leading voice on the racial and socio-cultural complexities of birth, breastfeeding, and motherhood. Additionally, she is the founder of Irth, a new "Yelp-like" app for Black and Brown parents to address bias and racism in maternity and infant care. Kimberly also created Birthright, a podcast about joy and healing in Black birth that centres on positive Black birth stories. In this episode, we discuss: How weathering - the phenomenon of being exposed to ongoing racism - impacts Black pregnant and birthing women Kimberly's journey into breastfeeding and birth activism - and how it's a family affair for her The Irth app and how Kimberly is challenging medical bias and shining a light on much needed provider and birth space accountability Black birthing joy and how it is possible to hold both the reality of these statistics and the celebration for Black birthing people How we can push for change despite generations of struggle And so much more! Tune in for an incredibly raw conversation and a very real look into a black woman’s reality as an expecting mother and beyond. Your eyes will be further opened to the injustice that continues to exist in this country and you will feel more inspired than ever to do what you can to take action as an advocate. Thank you so much for taking the time to tune in to your body, yourself, and this podcast! Please share the love by sending this to someone in your life who could benefit from the kinds of things we talk about in this space. Make sure to follow your host on Instagram @dr.avivaromm and go to avivaromm.com to join the conversation. Follow Kimberly @iamksealsallers, get your copy of The Big Letdown: How Medicine, Big Business, and Feminism Undermine Breastfeeding, listen to the Birthright Podcast and check out the Irth App at www.kimberlysealsallers.com

Transcript

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0:00.0

We still continue to die, but what's left, right?

0:07.0

And so people are afraid.

0:08.9

They are avoiding the very real conversation that black women are treated differently.

0:13.7

Our motherhood is not valued.

0:16.0

Our lives are not valued.

0:17.3

Our children are not valued.

0:18.3

This country spent years trying to control our reproductive organs through eugenics and

0:22.9

making sure that we did not produce children.

0:25.2

So now you want me to believe that the fact that I'm dying is just on me.

0:29.9

I'm sorry, sir.

0:31.4

As a children say, no man.

0:35.3

From this stuff, your mother never told you to the stuff your doctor never learned.

0:39.5

On health is what happens when a midwife, plus a Yale trained MD, shares about all things

0:44.6

women's health.

0:45.9

From periods to menopause, sex to reproductive health politics, motherhood to mental health,

0:51.3

join me for taboo busting conversations that demystify and destigmatize our bodies all

0:57.0

while bridging the gap between conventional medicine and wellness.

1:00.8

Along the way, we'll be exploring the science and wisdom of how our bodies work, what makes

1:05.1

us well, what gets in the way, and how we can live our best lives on our terms.

1:10.7

When it comes to women's health and wellbeing, there's nothing we won't talk about.

1:14.5

The new medicine for women is here.

1:16.3

I'm Dr. Avivaram, welcome to the podcast.

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