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The LRB Podcast

On Politics: The Rearmament Consensus

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4579 Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

‘We must build our hard power because that is the currency of the age,’ Keir Starmer declared to the Munich Security Conference earlier this month. It’s a sentiment shared across Europe, where leaders have cited Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the rise of Chinese power and US instability to justify substantially increased defence spending. But the rearmament consensus has so far not been accompanied by much detail on where the money needs to go or what accountability there will be for the use of this ‘hard power’. To discuss the origins and implications of Europe's militarisation, James is joined by Sam Jones, European security correspondent at the Financial Times, and Anna Stavrianakis, professor of international relations at the University of Sussex.  Read more on politics in the LRB: ⁠https://lrb.me/lrbpolitics⁠ From the LRB Subscribe to the LRB: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/subslrbpod Close Readings podcast: ⁠https://lrb.me/crlrbpod⁠ LRB Audiobooks: ⁠https://lrb.me/audiobookslrbpod⁠ Bags, binders and more at the LRB Store: ⁠https://lrb.me/storelrbpod⁠ Get in touch: podcasts@lrb.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm James Wood, and this year on the LRB's Close Reading's podcast, I'm asking,

0:07.4

Who's Afraid of Realism? I'll be taking a range of great novels and short stories,

0:12.4

from Flobe's Madame Bovary and Dostoevsky's Notes from Underground, up to more recent works

0:17.2

by Amit Chowdhury and Gwendolyn Riley. And I'll be examining what makes and makes

0:22.5

for the real. How does realism produce its effects? What's the difference between artifice

0:28.3

and artificiality? And who is and has been afraid of realism and why? The series starts with

0:35.5

two episodes on Madame Bovary, which you can listen to right now.

0:39.2

And in the third episode, I'll be talking to Adam Thurlwell about Dostoevsky. You can find a link in

0:44.0

the description or search close readings wherever you get your podcasts.

0:50.2

We must build our hard power because that is the currency of the age.

0:54.2

We must be able to deter aggression.

0:56.7

And yes, if necessary, we must be ready to fight.

1:00.2

So said Kirstama in his speech to the Munich Security Conference on the 14th of February.

1:05.2

A happy Valentine's Day for BIA systems, perhaps.

1:08.2

He was followed the next day by British and German chiefs of defence making

1:12.3

the same argument in an editorial in The Guardian. They're not alone in that conviction. Not long

1:18.2

after Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, Olaf Schultz declared the moment a Zeiten vendor, a monumental

1:25.1

turning point in international affairs.

1:28.1

In this reading, which I think also underlay Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney's recent

1:32.5

speech declaring the end of the liberal world order, Russia's exertion against Europe, the rise

1:37.8

of Chinese power and the instability of the American Empire entails the return of a more

1:42.9

militarised, conflict-prone and zero-sum world.

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