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The LRB Podcast

On Politics: The Fall of Orbán, the Rise of Magyar

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4579 Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

For more than a decade, Viktor Orbán has stood alongside Trump and Modi as a global figurehead for authoritarian nationalism, and an inspiration to popular strongmen everywhere with his model for the ‘illiberal’ democratic state. But on April 12 his sixteen-year tenure as Hungary’s prime minister came to an end with a surprisingly gracious concession speech to his opponent, Péter Magyar, who won the country’s general election by a landslide. But if Orbán has fallen, will Orbánism collapse with him? James is joined by journalist Dan Nolan and poet and translator George Szirtes to discuss why Orbán was finally voted out and the challenges Magyar faces in meeting his main election promises of tackling corruption and improving the economy. Read Jan-Werner Müller on the Hungarian elections: https://lrb.me/ophungary01 Watch 'Magda's Boy: How George Szirtes invented his mother': https://lrb.me/ophungary02 From the LRB Subscribe to the LRB: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/subslrbpod Close Readings podcast: ⁠https://lrb.me/crlrbpod⁠ LRB Audiobooks: ⁠https://lrb.me/audiobookslrbpod⁠ Bags, binders and more at the LRB Store: ⁠https://lrb.me/storelrbpod⁠ Get in touch: podcasts@lrb.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:11.4

With a script by Samantha Harvey who won the Booker Prize for her novel Orbital, Quartet in Autumn is, as Penelope Fitzgerald wrote of the book in the LRB, a deeply touching story of

0:22.8

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0:30.5

from £12. Trump, Modi, Orban, that's the trifecta name-checked by commentators whenever they want a quick way of gesturing to the authoritarian nationalist wave, which has swept global politics over the last decade and a half.

0:48.4

But as of 12th of April this year, one element of that unholy trinity, Victor Orban, has fallen from power.

0:55.5

His opponent, Peter Madjar, a former member of Orban's party, Fides, often described as a

1:01.7

conservative liberal, led a united opposition to a landslide victory.

1:06.7

Having campaigned strongly against corruption and on the rule of law, Madjah's party, Tisa,

1:13.5

obtained 53% of the vote enough for a two-third supermajority in the National Assembly,

1:19.8

thus allowing him a pretty free hand in remaking the country.

1:24.4

Orban, of course, had long been the darling of the international right, funding a transnational

1:28.9

network of propagandists and influences. Domestically, he was accused of an increasingly

1:34.4

personalist politics, remaking the constitution and overseeing a kleptocratic mafia state

1:40.3

in which Orban aligned companies and families, including his own, robbed the state

1:45.4

blind. A champion of so-called illiberal democracy, Orban frequently attacked and undermined

1:51.0

the rule of law and sought out conflict with the European Union and engendered a paranoid style

1:56.3

of politics with a proliferating range of enemies from gender theorists and LGBT people to Islam,

2:02.8

from Euro politicians and NGOs to the Central European University, and of course George Soros.

2:08.7

Over the past decade and a half, his politics got harder and harder,

2:12.6

and the corruption more flagrant and more obvious and Orbanomics unraveled.

2:18.3

So one reading of the election is that a wave of anti-incumbency swept the nation.

2:23.3

His people were simply sick of it.

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