On Politics: Do bond markets and the Bank of England run Britain?
The LRB Podcast
London Review of Books
4.4 • 579 Ratings
🗓️ 29 October 2025
⏱️ 65 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm James Wood, and this year on the LRB's Close Reading's podcast, I'm asking, |
| 0:07.4 | Who's Afraid of Realism? I'll be taking a range of great novels and short stories, |
| 0:12.4 | from Flobe's Madame Bovary and Dostoevsky's Notes from Underground, up to more recent works |
| 0:17.2 | by Amit Chowdhury and Gwendolyn Riley. And I'll be examining what makes and makes |
| 0:22.5 | for the real. How does realism produce its effects? What's the difference between artifice |
| 0:28.3 | and artificiality? And who is and has been afraid of realism and why? The series starts with |
| 0:35.5 | two episodes on Madame Bovary, which you can listen to right now. |
| 0:39.2 | And in the third episode, I'll be talking to Adam Thurlwell about Dostoevsky. You can find a link in |
| 0:44.0 | the description or search close readings wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:51.6 | Hello, you're listening to On Politics on the LRB podcast. I am James Butler, a contributing editor at the London Review of Books. |
| 1:00.6 | Who runs Britain? In a much-talked about intervention just before Labour Party conference, the mayor of Manchester, Andy Burnham, suggested the answer was the bond markets. |
| 1:12.5 | And it's not hard to see his point, |
| 1:17.0 | not least because the response to most ambitious social democratic politics is that the markets, |
| 1:23.5 | like an ill-tempered god, won't like it. And however reasonable one finds Liz Truss, and I do, |
| 1:28.3 | her spectacular crash-out from government was catalyzed by a bond market reaction to her budget plans. Meanwhile, Rachel Reeves's answer to Burnham is simply that the bond markets aren't |
| 1:34.1 | going anywhere and the government must do all it can to retain their confidence. So they certainly |
| 1:39.7 | sound powerful. And in the background is a difficult picture. The upward creep of UK borrowing costs |
| 1:45.4 | and the sporadic mini-crisies that seem to afflict the country's economy. Our debt to GDP ratio |
| 1:51.6 | hovers around 100%. Inflation has bitten sharply, I think, for all of us over the last few years. |
| 1:57.7 | The government is pretty strongly hemmed in by fiscal rules that it's adopted for itself, |
| 2:03.2 | and it fears changing them because it fears that they will act as a market signal. The British economy, |
| 2:08.6 | and especially real wages, seem to me like they've been basically dead in the water for more or less |
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