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On Our Watch: Perceived Threat

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4.7 β€’ 12.1K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 18 June 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

A 16-year-old Black kid walks into a gas station in Stockton, Calif. to buy gummy worms for his little sister. When the teen gets in an argument with the clerk over a damaged dollar bill, a white officer in plainclothes decides to intervene β€” with force. In the fourth episode of On Our Watch, we trace the ripple effects of this incident over the next 10 years in a department trying to address racism and bias. But can the chief's efforts at truth and reconciliation work when the accountability process seems to ignore the truth?

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0:00.0

Hey guys, just a quick announcement to say we are working hard on our next series.

0:05.8

And in the meantime, we're posting another show in this feed. It's called On Our Watch.

0:10.9

It's a collaboration between NPR and Member Station KQED. And it's all about what happens when

0:18.0

police do something wrong. A recent law in California has opened the door for reporters to

0:24.2

get tons of information about how police investigate each other when an officer is accused of wrongdoing.

0:32.3

But what happens when an officer is accused of racism and bias during a violent confrontation with

0:39.5

someone? How can you prove that? Here's the episode. This podcast deals with policing and people

0:47.1

affected by it. It contains explicit content and descriptions of violence. It was a rainy day

0:53.2

in Stockton, California, when a woman pulled into a gas station with her two kids.

0:57.7

Well, I was in the store trying to buy some candy from my little sister.

1:03.2

While mom fills up the tank, her 16-year-old son Joseph Green pays at the counter.

1:08.5

He's got a dollar bill left over, so he tries to buy his little sister some gummy worms.

1:13.2

And my dollar was partially ripped, right?

1:16.3

Also making a pit stop at the gas station that day was a Stockton police officer, Robert Johnson the

1:21.4

third. How do you know the incident? I do. It was February 17, 2011, an officer Johnson and his

1:27.8

partner were just finishing their shift on the gang suppression unit. They stopped to get something

1:32.7

to drink at the same store. The California stop. Detective Wang and I were there. We went to get

1:38.8

a bottle of water. We've been out working out a South that day. It was a stressful time for the

1:44.0

teenager Joe Green and his family. They had been a fire the day before that destroyed their house.

1:49.6

And now they're trying to figure out where to stay. And he was trying to get this gas station clerk

1:54.7

to take his damaged bill. I would just try to give him the ticket, and then he would say no,

1:59.9

and I would like, come on man, the bank's gonna take it.

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