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The Eurointelligence Podcast

On Orbán's messy breakup and drama in Northern Ireland

The Eurointelligence Podcast

Wolfgang Munchau

Geopolitics, Recovery Fund, Fiscal Union, Ecb, Italy, News, Politics, Germany, Government, France, European Integration, Political Risk, Uk, China, Trade, Spain, Netherlands, European Union, Brexit, Economics, Eu-china, Business, Political Union, Political Economy, Transatlantic Relations, Eurozone, European Politics, Eu, Banking

4.638 Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2021

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The Eurointelligence team discusses Orbán's exit from the EPP, seismic shifts in Italian politics, tension and drama in Northern Ireland, and the unloved conference on the future of Europe.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Paige and this is the Eurointelligence podcast covering current affairs in the

0:05.1

EU and Eurozone. I'm joined by Wolfgang and Susanna, directors of Eurointelligence in Oxford.

0:11.0

Guys, the big story this week was a very messy breakup or looking at Hungary.

0:15.3

We've been waiting for this moment that Victor Orban finally leaves the EPP, we never thought of what happened,

0:23.6

being, you know, this sort of playing it to both sides type game. But in the end, I suspect it must

0:30.0

have proved too much. But do we, do we know what happened? Do we know what will happen to the EPP?

0:35.3

Oh, my goodness. That's a big question.

0:42.7

I myself am not sure what exactly happened because when I wrote about this, the EPP establishing its task force to examine changing the rules back in January, I did describe it

0:48.9

as a robust PR exercise.

0:50.9

So that was my bad.

0:52.1

I'm sure.

0:52.6

No, no, I'm sure it was a robust PR exercise. I think events intrude it

0:56.8

most likely. Well, this was coming from

0:59.8

basically a meeting of the group in September

1:02.0

where Donald Tusk told everyone that there just wasn't enough

1:04.5

support in the party to get rid of Fiddash.

1:07.8

He was saying, you know, some members wanted to keep hungry close for tactical

1:13.1

reasons. Some actually agreed with his ideological stance. And then others just, you know, didn't

1:17.9

have the support that they needed to get rid of him. But something changed between basically

1:21.8

September and January. And suddenly the EPP, I guess, felt confident enough to move forward with the

1:27.4

changes to these rules,

1:29.0

which saw Badesh leave the parliamentary group, but not the party alliance.

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