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Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

On Offense: Taking Action to Prevent Further Assaults to Democracy with Kristofer Goldsmith

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8684 Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Kristofer Goldsmith is the founder and CEO of the nonprofit group Task Force Butler Institute, which trains veterans in research and operations to counter extremism. He is an Iraq combat veteran, accomplished public policy advocate, nonprofit leader, and expert on the threats posed by domestic extremist organizations that work against Democracy. His group focuses on gathering intelligence on dangerous individuals and hate groups while also teaching the skills and context necessary to keep veterans and communities safe. Like me, Kris couldn’t believe Trump gave pardons to the violent #Jan6th insurrectionists serving time in jail for their crimes against America. We both believe we are in World War III and fighting fascism at home. Musk, Thiel and other billionaires are on the record that they dont believe in democracy of upholding the Constitution nor do they want to help the USA remain a superpower. They are busy with NeoTech conspiracy to take over the world and dismante our administrative state using the Heritage Foundation’s 2025 playbook. Kris is a patriot and has inspired many vets to step up with him to oppose what is being done to us. You will find this a fascinating conversation and be heartened that he is a courageous person stepping up to do defend our country. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of my podcast, cult conversations,

0:09.7

the influence continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan.

0:14.1

And man, oh man, am I excited to be with Chris Goldsmith?

0:17.7

I've been trying to get you, Chris, on my podcast since I started almost three years ago.

0:24.5

I've been following all your posts. I just think you're a rock star in my world, Veterans Fighting Fascism.

0:32.5

Let me just do a short intro and we'll jump in. You are a vet and you are an accomplished public policy advocate,

0:41.1

non-profit leader, expert on threats posed by domestic extremist organizations that want to

0:48.6

destroy our democracy. You're the founder and CEO of Task Force Butler Institute, which is a nonprofit organization

0:57.3

that trains vets in research and operations to counter extremism, teaching the skills and

1:04.6

context necessary to keep veterans and their communities safe as they gather intelligence

1:10.5

on dangerous individuals and hate groups.

1:13.6

And I love your little videos where you're walking and talking into the microphone and the dog is following you.

1:22.6

And you're talking about how your people, you know, pretend that they're radicals, go to these meetings, you know, you use drones to get license plates to identify these folks.

1:37.5

And we're in a moment in existential history where we've never faced such a threat to our freedom and to democracy.

1:48.5

So with that, I'm pitching you the softball, my friend. Tell us about what you've been doing,

1:55.6

what you need, because I really want to get people supporting your work, because I think your

2:00.7

organization is awesome.

2:02.1

Thank you. Well, it's great to finally be here. I'm sorry it took so long, but I promise I will

2:08.3

come back whenever you want me to. Please too. So Task Force Butler is too was founded kind of,

2:14.6

you know, in the wake of January 6th. During January 6th and in the months leading

2:20.7

up to it, I was operating as a consultant working for an intelligence firm whose primary

2:29.4

motivator was capitalism, was to make a profit. And as someone who's worked in the nonprofit world, almost my entire life, aside from serving

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