On Myth as a Vehicle for Truth A Dialogues Conversation with Holly Ordway & Louis Markos (Continued)

The Eric Metaxas Show

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🗓️ 20 September 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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How often do you use your imagination? In our newest program, Socrates Dialogues, authors and professors Louis Markos and Holly Ordway discuss the enduring friendship between C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien and their most famous works, The Chronicles of Narnia and The Lord of The Rings.

They discuss how the two balanced their disagreements while maintaining respect and a close bond, the mythical worlds they created, the fight between good and evil, and ultimately, the importance of imagination through reason.

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0:20.1	If God can reach Michael Franzis, who can God not reach?
0:24.8	Now streaming on Salem Podcast Network and Salem News Channel.
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0:46.2	Did you ever see the movie The Blob, starring Steve McQueen?
0:48.9	The blood-curdling prep of The Blob.
0:52.1	Well, way back when, Eric had a small part in that film,
0:55.7	but they had to cut his scene because the blob was supposed to eat them.
0:57.4	But he kept spitting him out.
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1:04.1	Anyway, here's the guy who's not always that easy to digest.
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1:15.5	Today on this program, we're playing a Socrates dialogue, a conversation under Socrates in the city between C.S. Lewis, I'm sorry, between Holly Ordway and Louis Marcos about C.S.
1:21.1	Lewis and J.R. Tolkien. It's terrific. Here it is.
1:24.8	But it's very interesting. In an interview, Tolkien once said, I believe in absolute good, but I do not believe in
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