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Now, no surprise. I love the local church. I love the church for lots of reasons. I'm a

preacher's kid, so it was a big part of my life growing up. And preacher's kids, we see the best

of church and we see the worst of church. And any preacher's kid who still loves the local church,

the God must be alive and well because we have seen it all. We've seen the underbelly where

preacher's kids were not impressed with the hype. You know, growing up, I would hear people walk

out and say, I just felt the spirit of God tonight and the church and I would be like, no,

the room was full. Take that same number of people, put them in a room four times as large.

You wouldn't feel anything but empty. So I'm, and again, you can get a little cynical. But I mean,

we're just not, we're not confused by what's real and by what's not real. And again,

you've seen the best and the worst. I'm speaking to the worst when I was in the eighth grade. I've told

some of you this story. I was in the eighth grade. I'm sitting on about the sixth pew on a

Wednesday night service because we had Wednesday night church and bad to church. And my dad was on

the stage. You know, in the bad to church, they had the thrones up there. Remember the thrones?

I don't know if you remember. They're like two big ones, then two smaller ones for the education

director and music director. Anyway, we don't do that. And again, people are going to look back

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