On Faith and On Fury
Unholier Than Thou
Unholier Than Thou
4.7 • 903 Ratings
🗓️ 17 July 2020
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
A history of pain and controversy lies beneath the ashes of San Gabriel Mission, which caught fire last weekend. Phil talks to Alan Salazar, a Native storyteller, activist, and Chumash and Tataviam elder about the history of the Indigenous people whose hands built the church — and who were abused by its founding father. Phil also hears from Remy Tran who started a GoFundMe for the restoration of the church. Remy’s experience is one of belonging, as the church served as a second home when he immigrated from Vietnam. Phil works to reconcile how a place of worship for some is a site of pain for others, and what we can learn by addressing the harsh realities of the past.
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| 0:00.0 | From Crooked Media, this is unholyer than now. I'm your host, Philip Picardy. |
| 0:13.0 | On Saturday, July 11th, firefighters in Los Angeles received a call at 424 in the morning. |
| 0:25.0 | The son Gabriel Mission Church, a 215 year old building, and one of the oldest Catholic |
| 0:29.6 | houses of worship in the city, was burning. It was the de facto symbol of the mission's |
| 0:34.5 | nearly 250 years of work in bringing Catholicism to California. The fire is |
| 0:40.9 | believed to us started in the choir. |
| 0:43.0 | As the firefighters worked to extinguish the flames from inside, |
| 0:46.0 | pieces of the centuries-old building started to fall on them. |
| 0:49.0 | They retreated outside, but by the time they'd finally beat it, |
| 0:52.0 | hours later, the roof was destroyed. |
| 0:54.7 | The pews burned entirely. |
| 0:57.7 | The very next day, Catholics from all over the city came to pray outside of the mission, bringing |
| 1:01.7 | holy books and rosary beads. |
| 1:04.0 | Many of them recalled the major life events they'd held inside that church, the baptism of their children, |
| 1:09.1 | their own weddings, holiday celebrations. |
| 1:12.1 | Remy Tran found the same Gabriel mission when he first moved to LA from his native Vietnam in 1993. |
| 1:17.0 | Here's what he had to say about the church in the community he found there. |
| 1:21.0 | I heard the news today and it just it just broke my heart to |
| 1:25.4 | because it's so much memories that I had in that church with my choir and |
| 1:31.9 | families and friends. |
| 1:33.6 | It just so like, feel like home, you know, and that's like I said, that's the only church |
| 1:38.3 | that my family and I attended every Sunday. |
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