On ‘Empire’: The Show, the Music and the Calamitous Finale

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The New York Times

Music Interviews, Music Commentary, Music

3.6 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2015

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Jon Caramanica and Gilbert Cruz, of The Times, and Justin Charity, of Complex, discuss “Empire.”

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0:00.0	Biggis can't be chooses, huh?
0:05.0	Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your overbearing patriarch and prodigal son of music
0:09.9	news and criticism.
0:11.0	I'm your host, John Garamonica. It's game time snitch's something for nothing work hard and play even harder.
0:27.0	Gotta save up all my nickels and quarters.
0:31.0	It's game time snitches. This is the Empire Popcast, shouts to Swiss Beets for a second.
0:37.5	Swiss Be's probably the only person who watched Empire strictly for the art.
0:41.2	Probably every week just sort of like cataloging what he does and does not have and is really upset about that.
0:45.6	Empire finale was last night. It was an exhausting first season. I have a lot of things to get off my chest.
0:52.2	Luckily I'm joined by two people who have as many feels about the thing as I do.
0:57.1	Number one, Gilbert Cruz.
0:58.8	Hello?
0:59.3	Hello.
1:00.3	Television editor of the New York Times.
1:01.2	Welcome to the building.
1:02.1	Thank you. Number two, welcome to the building. Thank you.
1:03.2	Number two, Justin Charity.
1:05.4	Complex magazine Complex.com.
1:07.6	Been writing about the show in its many facets
1:10.4	for the last several weeks.
1:11.9	There's a lot to get through and of course let's just
1:14.1	spoiler this whole thing. If you're a person that somehow couldn't muscle your way
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