from WNYC studios. I'm Brian Lerer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Thursday,

June 6th. On this 80th anniversary of D-Day, the Allied invasion of France to expel the Nazi occupation. A lot of the coverage

you've probably been hearing from either side of the Atlantic looks back. But McKay Coppins from the

Atlantic and President Biden want to look forward just as much. Now, the president gave that 80th

anniversary speech this morning in Normandy where the troops came ashore, and one of the things he said was this.

What the Allies did together 80 years ago far surpassed anything we could have done on our own.

It was a powerful illustration of our alliances, real alliances, make us stronger.

A lesson that I pray we Americans never forget.

President Biden this morning, we will hear more from the speech as we go.

But here's the headline from a long new article in the Atlantic by staff writer McKay Coppins, who went on a reporting trip to Europe of his own.

It's called What Europe Fears. American Allies in Europe see a second Trump term as all but inevitable.

The anxiety is massive. McKay Coppins is also author of the Wilderness,

a book about the battle over the future of the Republican Party, and Romney, a reckoning,

a biography of Mitt Romney, and McKay joins us now. McKay, always good to have you. Welcome

back to WNYC. Thanks for having me on, Brian. There's so much in this article, including the fear that you describe as existential,

also a grudging acknowledgement of things Trump may have gotten right as president in the

context of Europe.

But by way of background, did you time this article to coincide with the 80th anniversary

of D-Day?

You know, we were aware that it was is happening this week. We, but no. The article was, you know,

there are a couple different newspegs, but I do think that once we realized that the anniversary,

the story would be ready in time for the anniversary. We felt like it was a

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