Here at Family Light today, we believe all scriptures inspired, and 2 Timothy 316 puts it this way.

All scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, and training in righteousness.

And what you just read, that's how the CSB translates it.

And it just captures the weight and purpose of God's words so clearly.

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I'm so grateful to God that I have a wife who understands the gospel and can point me to the providence of God

and remind me that because of what Christ did, I am the object of God's goodness. I'm not, I'm not what's been done to me.

I'm not the ways that I've been sinned against. I'm the object of God's goodness.

Welcome to Family Life Today, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most.

I'm Dave Wilson.

And I'm Ann Wilson, and you can find us at familylifetay.com.

This is Family Life today.

We've got Dave Harvey back with us today in his book, The Clay Pot Conspiracy, God's plan to use weakness in leaders.

This is going to be a great conversation.

We get to talk about weakness today, something nobody wants to talk about, but God wants to meet us right there and take us on a journey, which is an epic journey.

So let's go.

How did you navigate the sadness of losing your ministry, in a sense that's a church losing your daughter

daughter and there's a sad you know and the sadness that kim probably was walking yeah i think second

corinthians was a huge help and i think chapter four was a you, there were seminal moments in, in chapter four,

because part of that, that visual of God storing treasure in jars of clay is to realize that,

that in order for the surpassing power to shine,

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