Hello there. Welcome to Socrates in the city. Today, I am in the city of New York. I'm usually in the city of New York. And today my guest is Olivia Rheingold. She's a staff writer at the Free Press. She got her start in public radio. And she's writing a lot right now about the current mayoral election here in New York City.

And we look forward to talking about that and other things.

Olivia, so great to have you.

Thanks for having me.

I really, I want to talk to you about so much.

So we'll try to get it in here.

First of all, when I

reference the mayoral election, I'm staggered in a way, perhaps I shouldn't be, but staggered

to think that somebody who is openly and explicitly a socialist has been leading in the polls and won the Democratic

election. And my first question, and this one is tough, how do you pronounce his name?

So, Ron Mbani. He says in interviews that it has a soft age, and I've been thinking about that a lot.

I'm like, so I don't know how to do the soft age.

I need to ask him if he would only just give me a call back.

Actually, I'm only pretending to care.

In all seriousness, he, I mean, we have to frame this because not everybody's up on this,

but we just in New York had the primary, the Democratic primary.

Right.

And many people, myself included, were shocked that he won.

Now, I've been saying, Mamdani, I heard you earlier, reference him by his first

name. Yeah, Zoron. Zoran. Has somebody made the decision that we're going to go with Zoran?

Well, it's how, I think, a lot of people reference him. It's almost as if it's like Obama, where people just said Obama.

You just say Zoron.

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