You're listening to The Great Simplification with Nate Higgins.

That's me.

On this show, we try to explore and simplify what's happening with energy, the economy, the environment, in our society.

Together with scientists, experts, and leaders, this show is about understanding the bird's eye view of how everything fits together, where we go from here and what we can do about it as a society and as individuals.

This week, I am joined by environmental peacemaker and mediation practitioner, Olivia Lazard,

to discuss how geopolitics, mineral and energy scarcity, and climate change are interacting to have

a big battle economically, socially, justice-wise, between the global north and the global south

on potential future pathways.

Olivia has worked in the peacemaking sector at both field and policy levels at Carnegie

Europe.

She's also worked for various NGOs, the UN, the EU, and donor states in

the Middle East, Latin America, sub-Saharan, and North Africa. This conversation covers a wide

variety of topics, and much like Olivia's research is jam-packed with information. Personally, I think we're

going to need a lot more people like Olivia who are mediators and peacemakers to navigate the

speed bump-filled roads ahead. Please welcome Olivia Lazard.

Lots to discuss, Olivia.

We will eventually get to climate and cop and geopolitics and energy transition, which is how I found out about your work.

But your training is in peacemaking and mediation.

So how did you get into your current work?

And how do these two fields, peacemaking, mediation, and geopolitics, climate energy

interrelate?

I had a hunch that globalization was molding

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