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This is Behind the Rose, where Bachelor Nation meets country music and everything in between.

Here's your host, Blake Horseman.

Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Behind the Rose podcast.

I'm your host, Blake Horsen with my buddy as usual, Eric Bradley. And today, we have a friend of ours, friend of the podcast, been on a couple times. Olivia, thanks to joining us. Every time I come, it just gets better. It's good to see us. Yeah, it's true. Everybody loves them some Olivia.

So happy with here. I don't know about that, but thanks.

Making me think that.

We have a lot to catch up on because I think the last time you were on here,

you had like kind of just started school.

Literally.

Can you like I feel like I'm the person that changes.

I change everything so much. So like every it's like oh wow now you're buying a house now you're moving to Europe I'm like yeah so yes I graduated from grad school.

God that's got to feel good it feels so good good. It's kind of like, it's a little weird. Like, you know, I used to go to class at night from like six to nine p.m. So now I'm going to like have to go on dates or something after work. Have to have a life. Son of a kid. I'm going to have, like, go out and, like, meet people and stuff. Really? Yeah, but that's a good thing, right? That's a good thing. I mean, it's time. It's time I start focusing in. You had quite a star stud at graduation, too, right? I did. Oh, my God. Yes. Oh, my God. I almost forgot. Yeah. It wasn't Taylor Swift. It was you.

It wasn't. Dr. Swift. Dr. Swift. Doctor. You're right. Dr. Swift. That's right. Doctor. Yeah. No, it was crazy. I remember probably a month ago now, it started kind of getting around.

Like there was little rumblings that Taylor was going to be our speaker. There's thunder. Oh, that's thunder. Wow. It is that out there. I thought that was Blake's microphone. Me too. I thought I like bumped the mic. No, that is thunder, y'all. That's crazy. So, yeah, basically she got an honorary doctorate, which means she never went to school, but NYU is like giving her

a doctorate for her efforts in life.

For her financial contribution, maybe even.

I mean, potentially, it was more like they were like, oh, she's 11-time Grammy nominated.

Plus, she's re-recorded two albums.

I think it was more of like her efforts in making sure artists get paid what they should.

And, you know, I totally forgot about this.

When she took that guy to court, he like grabbed her ass or something and she made a dollar. That was in Denver. And you know, you know who the key witness of that trial was? Is our producer Eddie Haskell. Eddie Haskell is the key witness. He won her the dollar. True story. True story. You're kidding. Well, that was part of her thing was like she's done so much for, you know,

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