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The Interview

Olesya Khromeychuk: Conflict and identity

The Interview

BBC

News, Government, Politics

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2023

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Stephen Sackur speaks to the British-Ukrainian historian and author Olesya Khromeychuk. She's written a book and a play about her brother Volodya, a soldier killed defending Ukraine in the Donbas long before Russia’s all out invasion began last year. Has Putin’s assault on Ukrainian identity strengthened what he set out to destroy?

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. My guest today is an historian

0:05.9

whose desire to make sense of the past has been inspired by painful personal experience.

0:12.9

Olesia Kramachuk was born in Leviv, Western Ukraine, in the dying days of the Soviet Union.

0:18.9

She witnessed the birth of an independent Ukraine and exploited

0:22.5

the newfound freedom to pursue her studies abroad, choosing to focus on the complex history of

0:28.4

Eastern Europe. In 2014, Olesia watched from London as Vladimir Putin responded to the

0:34.9

Maidan Revolution in Kiev by annexing Crimea and installing pro-Moscow proxies in the eastern

0:42.6

Donbass. And so began a war which had already cost 14,000 Ukrainian lives before Russia's all-out

0:51.4

invasion launched a year ago.

1:00.3

Now, back in 2014, the West directed words of condemnation towards Moscow, but did little else.

1:03.3

Putin's Russia remained a key economic partner.

1:09.3

Olesia's older brother, Volodya, volunteered to fight on Ukraine's Donbass Front Line, and he was killed in action in 2017. Out of the pain and grief,

1:15.1

she resolved to tell the world about her brother and Ukraine's struggle for freedom. She wrote a play,

1:21.0

then a book, weaving personal stories together with the context and history. And then came February 24, 2022, a full-scale Russian invasion,

1:30.9

the existential threat to Ukraine made real. In the year since, the world has seen the strength

1:37.0

of Ukraine's will to resist. Western nations have pledged to help with money and weapons.

1:41.5

But even now, do Ukraine's allies understand really what is at stake

1:47.2

in this war? Well, Alessia Krametschuk joins me now. Welcome to Hard Talk. Thank you so much for

1:53.4

inviting me, Stephen. It's a great pleasure to have you in this studio in London. And you live

1:57.8

in London. You're the director of the Ukrainian Institute here in London. You're an historian of

2:02.5

Ukraine and Eastern Europe. And yet, I am sure that a lot of your mind is in Ukraine. What kind of a

2:12.5

distance do you keep from the daily reality of your homeland being at war?

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