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I'm doing a special deep dive into the place where science meets philosophy and theology.

And tonight, joining me for a deep dive on this nexus of science, philosophy, theology, particularly on the age of the earth.

It's really a geology show more than philosophy or science or theology.

But we're going to do, I guess, all four of those things together is my friend Andrew

Orozco, who's joined this show from time to time to talk about the end of the earth.

We're talking about the beginning of the earth now.

He's done a class on the end of the earth, the last

book of the Bible. We've talked about shows that we're going to appear on together. We've done all

kinds of theology stuff, and he's got the credentials to be here. So this is going to be a better show

for having him on. Thanks for joining Andrew Orozco.

Yeah, I always a joy to be back. I miss the days where I was there in studio, but it's always,

it's always great to be here. We've discussed everything from, I guess, now the beginning and the end and everything in between at this point. We'll see. That would take a long time, but yeah,

that is the question. Would it take billions of years or would it take less than?

Like like a couple thousand. Well, so I did a show on Old Earth as many of you know with my brother about a week and a half ago.

No, closer to two weeks ago,

generated a lot of conversation, generated a lot of surprise all around.

It was surprise on my end because I grew up with geologists from a science background.

And so what for me is not in a Catholic, a very Catholic geology family, to what for me is not, in a Catholic, a very Catholic geology family, to what for me

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