Hey everybody and welcome back to Gear 30 on the Blister Podcast Network.

I'm Jonathan Ellsworth and you can check out everything we're doing and reviewing over at blisterreview.com.

Okay, today our guest is Carl Moriarty, who was previously the design director at Arterix, and is now the

design director for Rafa cycling apparel.

And in this conversation, we talk about Carl's really interesting career in the outdoor industry,

and then we dive into

several principles of technical apparel design, and how those factor into the use of

certain materials, and how being clear on those principles can help us to evaluate some of the

very many advertising claims that we are frankly

inundated with all the time from various companies about new pieces that they are coming out

with. So I think that you are going to find a whole bunch of food for thought in this episode,

and so let's get to it well carl how are you

today and where are you today hey jonathan i today am kind of dog tired it's just it's the end of a long

day i think was like on know, we're coming to the

11th hour of Zoom here. And I am in North London, Kings Cross in the UK. Kings Cross, North

London. So I am catching you at the end of your workday. So thanks for doing this at this time

and talking with me rather than, you know,

going home and shutting things down. And we're podcasting. This is like super fun. Yeah,

I know. I'm looking forward to it. Well, listen, so the purpose of our conversation here today

is to perhaps dive a bit deeper into some pretty fundamental concepts that have been touched upon,

specifically in some of our other Gear 30 conversations about apparel and soft goods.

And so I'm really looking forward to doing this.

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