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🗓️ 2 August 2025
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Today’s Old Newscast focuses on 8 May 2009 - the day that The Daily Telegraph publishes the first in a long series of stories about MPs expenses. We hear how the information that changed the way the British public view politics was leaked.
Adam is joined by two people who were reporting at the heart of the story - former Whitehall Editor of the Telegraph, Chris Hope, and Jo Coburn - then of the BBC.
This episode tells the story of what led to that day - disgruntled off duty soldiers, a ‘bunker’ of journalists on a secret mission, and a disk full of information kept under high security.
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0:34.8 | Hello, it's another old newscast where we take what we do every day on newscast, but apply it to a day from the recent past. |
0:42.6 | And the day this time is the 8th of May 2009, when the Daily Telegraph published the first in a long series of stories about MP's expenses. |
0:54.1 | And this was based on a disc of leaked information |
0:57.0 | that they'd obtained. It catalyzed what became known as the expenses scandal, which commentators |
1:02.7 | now view as one of the most damaging events in history for British politics, with long, |
1:08.1 | lasting after effects, which we will discuss. And as we'll find out, |
1:12.6 | it was a long, complicated series of events that led to that day the 8th of May 2009. |
1:19.3 | Newscast. Newscast from the BBC. Do you know what it's about? Jealousy? I've got a very, |
1:24.1 | very large house. He claimed £2,000 for a duck island. |
1:27.8 | I want to apologise on behalf of all parties. |
1:31.3 | I am angry about what has happened. |
1:33.3 | It is out of order. |
1:34.4 | If they're making these mistakes for their own money, what the hell are they doing with our country? |
1:41.7 | Hello, it's Adam in the studio. |
1:43.6 | And here with me is Chris Hope, who's currently political editor at GB News, but in 2009 was... Whilst Whitehall editor at The Telegraph. Ah, which is a quite important part of this story. Quite. Please, well, wow, she's chipped in already. Welcome back to the BBC. Joe Coburn, formerly of politics live. Hello. Hello. Royalty. Oh, it's lovely to be back. And also welcome back to the mid-naughties. Because we're going to go back to 2009. Gosh, was that the heyday? The mid-noughties? Well, actually, it's the end of the naughties, I suppose. Mid-to-late naughties. It was. So before we dive into the day itself, which, when we've picked the 8th of May 2009, it was actually a long period we're talking about here. But the pivotal day was the 8th of May because that's the first kind of big front page splash on the telegraph on the basis of this information about MP's expenses. But I think, Joe, we've got to rewind a bit further back to just what MP's general lives |
2:37.2 | were like then and kind of still are like, no, just the weird nature of where their job is. |
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