No jumper coolest podcast in the world and today I'm in here with old man Saxon. How you doing man?

I'm always good man. How you doing great?

I became a big fan of what you were doing during your time on rhythm and flow

It sucks that you didn't make it further into the show because I really felt like every time you were given screen time on that show

You were doing very

Inventive flows crazy weird word play. I was just really really impressed overall

Thank you man. Thank you. I really appreciate it. It sucks. Yeah, I could have went further and what it really sucks about the stories that it ends with like a question mark like

Like he could have what had what happened here did the music video challenge. Yeah, they're being tighter whatever

But um and that's kind of the risk when you put yourself into that situation is

You know sort of like setting yourself up for the chance at winning and also allowing yourself to be vulnerable

Enough that people might see you lose

Knowing that you're gonna get a lot of benefit along the way

But also that you're sort of as an artist entering yourself into this weird thing

Where you're gonna let all these TB producers contextualize who you are as an artist very interesting to me

The contract for the show was the scary shit to sign because it literally was just like fuck late like legal terms

I'm cussed right yeah, fuck legal terms. It was like yo

We can edit this way to child ever we want right even if you do well

And we can we can say you didn't know that so yeah

It was good for me to like first like you say like in a little bit of time I had on on camera

People fucked with me so the impact was there, but yeah, it was scary the whole time not knowing what

Oh, yeah, sorry not knowing what they could have done because I remember I was sitting in the van with

Two contestants and it just the thought went through my mind like damn like what if I like shit on myself like on stage or something

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