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Today, Explained

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Today, Explained

Vox

Politics, Daily News, News

4.310.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2023

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

A group in Tulsa, Oklahoma, will pay remote workers $10,000 to move there. Vox’s Rani Molla explains why the city is banking on a digital workforce — and whether the program leaves longtime Tulsans behind. This episode was produced by Hady Mawajdeh, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Michael Raphael, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/todayexplained Support Today, Explained by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Way back in the autumn of 2018, Tulsa, Oklahoma started trying to attract new residents by paying people $10,000 to move to the city.

0:10.0

A local billionaire was worried about Tulsa losing population and it was his money that was being spent.

0:16.0

Now at the time that might have seemed faintly ridiculous.

0:20.0

Ten grand to upstakes moved to a new city where you'd have to find a new house and a new community and convince your boss to let you work in Oklahoma.

0:30.0

And then came COVID. Americans had gone remote.

0:34.0

24 hundred people have moved to Tulsa through this program and today we are going to meet some.

0:40.0

I had laundry. That was huge. I had laundry.

0:42.0

The New Yorker who realized what she'd been missing.

0:46.0

A long time resident who watched rents go up as new people descended and the today explained producer who applied for Tulsa remote himself.

0:54.0

That's all ahead.

1:01.0

You're listening to today's explain.

1:04.0

It's today explained, I'm Noelle King. Vox correspondent Ronnie Mola has spent a lot of time since the pandemic covering this enormous shift in the way we work remotely.

1:15.0

Ronnie, you and my colleague, Hadi Mogdi recently went to Tulsa, Oklahoma to see what they're doing to recruit remote workers.

1:23.0

They are paying people and what else?

1:27.0

Well, first off, there's that 10,000 headline number, you know, which is a big deal.

1:33.0

And I think it gets a lot of media play because of it.

1:35.0

But what Hadi and I sort of learned from talking to so many people there was like, it's more than that.

1:43.0

Yeah, sure that $10,000 was great. Like as like a hook, as like the catcher attention.

1:48.0

But I was making pretty good money. So like, that wasn't the decisive kind of point for me.

1:53.0

Like for these people, they're making, you know, on average more than $100,000 a year.

1:58.0

While $10,000 is a big deal, it's not life or death, you know. It's sort of like, it helps sort of bump them over the edge.

2:03.0

I think the $10,000 was helpful to, in terms of the moving box.

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