OKC’s Fiscal Cliff; What Should RFAs Get; Draft and MVP WATFOs

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Nate Duncan

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🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Nate and Danny dive deep into the Oklahoma City Thunder’s evolving cap situation following extensions for Jalen Williams and Chet Holmgren, analyzing the trade-offs and future implications. They then break down recent NBA news including Herb Jones’ extension in New Orleans, the mechanics behind Jaren Jackson Jr.’s renegotiation in Memphis. The duo also surveys the restricted free agent market for players like Jonathan Kuminga and Josh Giddey, and closes with a round of WATFOs for the coming season. Timestamps: Thunder lock in Jalen Williams on a max rookie extension. 0:40 Holmgren’s max and whether OKC could’ve negotiated harder. 2:58 Comparing Holmgren’s résumé to other rookie max recipients. 4:42 Evaluating OKC’s future cap crunch and team-building constraints. 7:17 Potential trade candidates to relieve Thunder luxury pressure. 10:07 Caruso’s extension and long-term value. 11:09 Strategic tradeoffs for the Thunder to stay under the second apron. 12:58 Jaren Jackson Jr.’s renegotiation via Cole Anthony buyout. 15:50 Memphis waives and stretches Anthony; he lands in Milwaukee. 17:18 Cole Anthony’s fit with the Bucks. 18:51 Herb Jones’ extension: Value and future tradability. 19:53 Dom Barlow and Philly’s two-way depth. 21:58 Isaiah Jackson gets 3 years, $21M from Indiana. 22:57 Isiah Jackson’s injury history and contract structure. 23:59 Comparing Jackson’s deal to past backup center contracts. 26:22 Fred VanVleet named NBPA president. 27:01 Players are not getting squeezed by the new CBA. 27:48 What’s left in free agency? Top RFAs and Horford watch. 29:17 Jonathan Kuminga’s market and Warriors cap math. 30:32 Quentin Grimes’ with Philadelphia. 33:10 Cam Thomas’ likely value and deal structure. 34:33 Josh Giddey’s extension outlook with Chicago. 35:04 WAFTOs: 37:46

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0:00.0	welcome on to a what are we going to talk about again episode of dunked on and dunk down prime
0:08.7	thanks so much for joining us and being subscribers and with that we do have sub news that we have to get
0:15.1	to and we wanted to hit a few more watfos as well and see where things take us.
0:21.3	I recently arrived at Summer League.
0:23.2	Danny and I were two ships passing in the night.
0:25.7	He left on Saturday.
0:27.1	I arrived on what eventually became Sunday morning after 24 hours of travel from Portugal.
0:32.5	So I apologize if I'm not at my most lucid, but those are the most fun shows.
0:38.3	Let's get started here.
0:42.8	What do we have to talk about newswise? I think we could start with Jalen Williams, J-dub, and the Thunder agreeing to a max rookie scale extension, five years, no player options, no team
0:49.9	options. And the phrasing, I believe this was from Shams in the original reporting, is that
0:55.5	J-dub gets to 30% if he makes an All-MBA team. Now, maybe that phraseology is a little
1:01.3	imprecise. We don't know that 100% for sure yet. But I think we can use it as a pretty good
1:07.2	barometer that Jalen Williams not only gets up to 30, but that the bar for doing so
1:11.8	is pretty low. And those are significant, of course, for the Thunder. Yeah. Now, I don't think
1:17.2	that making third team all NBA as a fourth year player is necessarily low in the sense that they
1:23.5	are worth 30% of the cap if they do, in fact, make it. But probably the biggest thing is no options on his deal or Chet's deal.
1:31.2	It probably was easier for them to negotiate that in contrast to Paula Bancaro
1:37.4	because Shea Gilges Alexander, the MVP and MVP of the finals,
1:42.0	also only did a five-year deal with no options.
1:45.5	Now, Shea was not at the same stature when he signed his deal.
1:50.3	And in fact, they were coming off a ton of tanking.
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