OKC Gets Wobbled, Cleveland’s Done, and Knicks Nirvana Is Here (Maybe) With Zach Lowe and Sean Fennessey

The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Ringer

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4.4 • 30.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2026

⏱️ 97 minutes

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Zach Lowe react to Game 4 between the Thunder and Spurs before making a pressure ranking of the series and discussing role players (1:17). Then, Sean Fennessey comes on to discuss the ECF with the Knicks looking to close out the series against the Cavs (54:06). Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Zach Lowe and Sean Fennessey Producers: Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The Bill Simmons podcast is brought to by Fandall.
0:08.8	The conference finals finally is here.
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0:40.2	21 plus select states are 18 plus D.C., Kentucky,
0:42.7	Wyoming.
0:43.2	Game problem called 1-800 gamble or call 888-7-7-77 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. Bill Simmons podcast live here on Netflix.
1:19.4	Zach Lowe is here.
1:21.0	You can hear his pie.
1:21.8	He just put one up last night.
1:23.5	A little post-game reaction to Nick's Cavs.
1:26.3	You're Tuesday mornings, Thursday mornings. I have rewatchables coming Monday last comedy movie that we did for month of May. Animal House. Wow. Classic. Really good. A lot of great lines had a great time. So that's coming. You can watch all those movies on Netflix. All right. We're coming off Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Game 4. I love Game 4s. Game 4s are always great. Game 4s are always like, you bet three games of feeling each other out, and then Game 4 is the awesome game. Not today. That did not happen. But there's a certain buzz for game fours because if it's a two,
2:02.1	forget the three O game fours like we're going to see tomorrow.
2:04.5	The two one game fours, it's the fork in the road game.
2:07.3	It's either this is going to be an epic potential seven gamer or three one and it's going
2:12.7	to have to be a crazy comeback to get it to seven now or at least we're looking.
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