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Okay, Computer: Meet The New Bubble, Same As The Old Bubble with Rick Heitzmann

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RiskReversal Media

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4.6757 Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Dan Nathan is joined by Rick Heitzmann of FirstMark Capital. The AI mania continues, will history repeat itself a la the Dotcom crash (1:00)? OpenAI Closes $175 Million Startup Fund (23:00). How the bearish macro environment is impacting tech (29:00)? Further Reading Big Techs Become Even Bigger Winners. Shades of the Dot-Com Boom? This Economist Thinks a Recession Is Coming. It Could Be a Long One. View our show notes here Email us at [email protected] with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod and follow us @OkayComputerPod. We’re on social: Follow Dan Nathan @RiskReversal on Twitter Follow @GuyAdami on Twitter Follow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMedia Subscribe to our YouTube page

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0:00.0

Welcome to OK Computer. I am Dan Nathan. I'm joined by Rick Heitzman. He is the CEO and founder of First Mark Capital. Rick, welcome back to the pod.

0:09.7

Hey, Dan. How are you today? All right, we had a heck of a memorial day weekend. You had a son, a very fine son of yours graduated from a very fine school that one of my daughters goes to. Congratulations on that.

0:19.9

And moving on to school, another one of your daughters goes to. That's right. So there you go.

0:23.6

So, um, congratulations. Gee, there's your shout out, buddy. I mean, you're going to have to do

0:27.7

something fabulous to get another shout out on the pod. We got a lot to cover here. This is kind of

0:32.2

meta here. Okay. So we're doing this podcast and it feels like every podcast that I listen to, whether it's politics,

0:38.7

whether it's sports, whether it's markets. It seems like AI is just the thing, okay? And to me,

0:44.4

which is really funny, because you and I are about the same age, we're both a half a century here.

0:48.3

It seems like most of the sci-fi movies that dominated our childhood were about like machines

0:53.9

and learning and how they were

0:55.5

going to basically extinguish us.

0:57.1

The Terminator, all this stuff, the machines were going to take over and decide they don't

1:02.0

need the humans.

1:02.7

That's right.

1:03.3

But it's funny.

1:04.3

And I'm not even going to get into much of the regulation stuff because it seems like there's a lot of folks who are early on here who are really

1:10.9

worried about this stuff. This is one thing I probably agree with on Elon. Elon seems really

1:15.1

worried about a lot of this stuff too. But again, it seems like every pod that I listened to

1:20.5

this morning, the New York Times, the Daily, they had, you know, the Google guy who left.

1:24.7

And it just seems like again and again and again, Kara Swisher, the politics guys on Cricket Media they're talking about it. Even sports folks are talking about this

1:31.6

thing, man. You know, we talked about it a little bit as far as the data as it relates to,

1:35.9

so it's everywhere. Well, people are searching for the new thing, right? We talked about this last

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