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Top Traders Unplugged

OI08: Trend Following...Austrian Style ft. Michael Neubauer & Joseph Waldstein from SMN

Top Traders Unplugged

Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Business, Business News, Investing, News

4.8670 Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Moritz Seibert speaks with Michael Neubauer and Joseph Waldstein from SMN Investment Services, a Vienna, Austria-based systematic trend following manager with a 28-year track record. Michael and Joseph explain how they initially got interested in trend following and how their systems have evolved over the years. Moreover, the discuss why trading many different markets – as many as possible – is important for their approach, and that the inclusion of synthetic markets such as spreads and baskets as well as less liquid exotic/alternative markets improves SMN’s risk-adjusted returns. Last but not least, Michael and Joseph explain why they trade VIX futures and why this is a market they trade with a different methodology given the mean-reversion pattern of variance, and how they are monitoring this market – and potentially exiting open positions - on an hourly basis.

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Episode TimeStamps:

02:18 - Introduction to Michael Neubauer and Joseph Waldstein

05:52 - How did they learn about trend following?

14:18 - The perfect match?

15:12 - What drove their decision to discretionary overlays?

16:52 - What is causing dispersion in the...

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0:00.0

If the markets have for a long time no substantial moves,

0:12.0

then they are prepared having even bigger moves than on average after this period.

0:20.0

And this is what we are seeing now.

0:21.6

As you said already, we are agnostic, so we cannot forecast what is tomorrow

0:27.6

and where the big outliers will be, which direction and when we cannot do this.

0:34.6

But there's only one assumption behind the concepts. And this assumption is a broadly diversified portfolio will have a certain amount of trained outliers over time.

0:47.3

Imagine spending an hour with the world's greatest traders.

0:50.3

Imagine learning from their experiences, their successes, and their failures. Imagine no more.

0:57.4

Welcome to Top Traders Unplugged, the place where you can learn from the best hedge fund managers

1:02.6

in the world so you can take your manager, due diligence, or investment career to the next level.

1:08.2

Before we begin today's conversation, remember to keep two things in mind.

1:12.2

All the discussion we'll have about investment performance is about the past, and past performance

1:16.7

does not guarantee or even infer anything about future performance. Also understand that there's a

1:22.1

significant risk of financial loss with all investment strategies, and you need to request and

1:26.8

understand the specific risks

1:28.5

from the investment manager about their product before you make investment decisions.

1:33.0

Here's your host, veteran hedge fund manager, Nealz Kostrup Larson.

1:42.1

Welcome to another episode in the Open Interest series on Top Traders Unplogged, hosted by Moritz Siebert.

1:48.3

In life, as well as in trading, maintaining a spirit of curiosity and open-mindedness is key,

1:54.7

and this is precisely what the Open Interest Series is all about.

1:59.1

Join Moritz as he engages in candid conversations with

2:02.5

seasoned professionals from around the globe to uncover their insights, successes and failures

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