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The culture is the culture.

It's four to six, A to B, competitive excellence, and the brotherhood.

The plan to win has never changed.

So the culture here and the plan to win is always going to be here at our last state.

Welcome back to 4 to 6 with A&B, your Ohio State podcast, brought to you by The Athletic.

This is Bill Landis, joined by Ari Wasserman.

Ohio State loses to Oregon, 3528.

And Ari, I guess my first question to you would be, if Ryan Day spent less time of practice,

glad-handed Netflix comedians like Sebastian Manascalco,

do you think Ohio State would have won that game on Saturday?

Do you think Sebastian Manascalco was in the front row of the game going,

What are you doing?

I don't know, man.

I called that game a helmet game before the week's game. I don't know, man.

I called that game a helmet game before the week's and into the week.

And I didn't know I was talking about Ohio State.

Oh, my God, was I wrong?

Like, I mean, there's no other way to put it.

Boy, was I wrong?

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