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Welcome back to Buckeye Talk, I'm Stephen Means and that's Andrew Gillis and it's day three of

Michigan week. I hope you liked so far what we've done. Obviously set the scene on Monday and

looking at how we got to where we are in the rivalry today and obviously on Tuesday

looking back on Michigan's 2023 national championship team and trying to see if we think Ohio State 2014

not only could be could they beat but could they beat them on the field

where listen I mean a lot of those guys only lost by six months six points a year ago so could they

potentially beat that national championship team this is day three and we're looking at this now

from the recruiting angle where we're simply going to ask the question do

stars matter and I'm gonna say yes they yes, they do matter. They do matter.

Stars matter.

Listen, there's the, they're not, okay, rankings are not that bad.

They're not perfect, but they're not bad.

But, Andrew, we're looking at two programs here who have gone about over the past,

pretty much four or five years ago, building national championship caliber programs,

but on polar opposite end of the spectrum you're talking about Ohio State where

Routinely top five recruiting classes while with Michigan it's like barely ever a thing and it's almost this

push and pool to figure out which side of the table is right.

Right? That's almost what that in the November is. It's like listen we do it being

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