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of those Douglas Marie, Nathan Baird, Stephen Means, and we are doing 2016 Ohio State Michigan, and guys, I don't even know if I filled out my category sheet on this one, we have been doing retalkables for a long time now, we have a format, we have a way of doing things, but Nathan in rewatching this game, this Ohio State double over time victory in the shoe in a two three matchup between the Buckeyes and the Wolverines, I was so,

gobsmacked by the main thing that I thought that I set the categories on fire, so we'll go through them, but I want to know Nathan, were you gobsmacked when you watch this game, and then, and then maybe we'll just say, were you gobsmacked or not, and then we'll say, if you were gobsmacked, smacked, what gobsmacked you?

Uh, um, uh, slightly, I was at least like, gobs glancing blow, I don't know if you got the actual full smack, but, um, gobs, yes, I'll just say yes, there was something about this that, yes, you watched it, and you felt a little something, and you formed kind of an opinion, maybe kind of quickly, yes, that kind of thing, like kind of like a, oh, Stephen, Stephen, any gobsmacked and going in the means house, all there.

A lot of gobsmacking, um, this is the, I think the fourth Michigan game, oh, how's the Michigan game, we've done of these, and it's the third one, where I think in my head, it was romanticized, and then you go back and we watch it, and it's nothing like what was going on in your head, but this is a little worse to those three.

So here's the opinion that I've formed, like, basically immediately, and never wavered the entire game. This is part of why we are doing this, the 2016 Ohio State Michigan game was a matchup of number two Ohio State and number three Michigan.

The 2022 Ohio State Michigan game was a matchup of number two Ohio State and number three Michigan, and the, basically the only opinion I formed in watching this game is that 2022 Ohio State and Michigan would beat the snot out of 2016 Ohio State Michigan.

This 2016 game has more in common with the Woody Hayes game from the early 60s than it does with what Ohio State Michigan is now, and if we are romanticizing your words, Stephen.

Oh, urban was seven and no, the book I knew how to beat Michigan back then Michigan had no idea what it was doing, it had no idea how to win, it had no talent, it handed a win to Ohio State that Ohio State tried its hardest not to take.

And when you think about the way these teams play right now, the talent, especially offensively, on the field, the way they execute now, if we are going to look back and say, well, I don't know,

Carano, Ohio State needs to be more like this Ohio State, dear God, please know, Stephen, this is not what anybody once Ohio State to be on the last Saturday in November or any other time, I would make 2022 versions of those two teams 17 point favorites over the 2016 versions of those two teams, and I don't think anybody who watched the game could think otherwise.

There's a lot of things about both of these teams that are absolutely hated and they're both on the offensive side, there was a point at halftime when they're showing the stats and they are the, there's like stats where it's Ohio State would have those two drives now offensively and Kirk Herbstry had it, he said, he made a point, he said, the past, first of all, he said the passing game has been the thing that's been holding Ohio State back all season, which is hilarious because you would never say that today.

In fact, you'd say the polar opposite, the passing game is the only thing keeping Ohio State in the game, but he said, they had only thrown one pass that was further than 15 yards, everything was horizontal and J.C. Baird left J.C. Baird right and Michigan was even worse because their talent didn't even have names of guys, this was a, this was ugly to watch and I was really frustrated up until the first overtime happened.

Where basically all the action happened and all of a sudden both of these teams figured out how to score points.

Nathan Ohio State had 81 yards in the first half, it was a display as frustrated as reasonably frustrated as Ohio State fans are by losing the last two games to Michigan.

This was a display of incompetence in the Michigan game for a good 51 minutes that seems almost intolerable.

It's, it is dumb founding to watch Ohio State can't do anything.

They are the number two team in the country, they are at home against Michigan.

And again, this is primarily discussion for the moment I think about the two offenses.

It's not even Nathan like, oh, the mistakes that Ohio State made, it's that they can't do anything.

There's nothing there and that's what they're putting out into the world as the number two team in the country in the Michigan game.

It's not as if there's no talent on the field, Curtis Samuel, very good football player has gone on to do things.

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