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Welcome back to your Friday buck, I talked to clube.com, Douglas Maries, Nathan Baird and Stephen Means and the plan is that we're going to work through all of the interviews that we did on Wednesday and we don't want to dump everything on you right away because I think it's a good opportunity guys to, you know, absorb where these coaches are, where these position rooms are. And so on the Thursday pod, we talked about small, fun, sublime stuff with Justin Fry, we talked about some quarterback stuff,

with Corey Dennis, and so, you know, we'll work through some of the stuff we talked about the play calling with Brian Hartlein and Ryan Day, but on this podcast, we're going to focus on, I think, Tony Alfred in the running backs room, and Keenan Bailey joining the staff in a full time way as the new tight ends coach, and Nathan, I know you've been working on the story there. And then next week, we'll plan to get a lot more in all the defensive stuff. So we're not in a hurry, you know, I mean, it's we want to analyze it. We want to tell you guys what was said and then we want to interpret it for you. So that's the plan,

but I do want to start with something that's related to that, but not exactly that. And that's what Ryan Day said on Wednesday about the Marvin Harrison Jr. overturned targeting call in the Georgia game, Nathan. And I think this was something that Ryan Day had holstered and was debating, I think, whether he wanted to go there or not. And he did not go there on his own.

He went, he went there with a nice shove by Steve Hellwagon of Bucknuts, who was like, let's talk about this.

You know, I'm trying Steve was saying, like, I'm trying, I'm trying to get an answer of like how the decision was made and what, what's the rules supposed to be on targeting in that situation. And, and it's always one of those Ryan turned to Jerry and make the sports formation director and was like,

are we going here? Like, is this is this okay? And Jerry was like, sure. So he talked about it, Nathan. And he talked about the idea. There's opinion and there's fact. And the fact is, Ryan, they said he made a bunch of calls because he was trying to figure out what is the letter of the law with targeting. And he was trying to figure out why it was interpreted the way it was, which was called on the field and then picked up.

No foul on the play that knocked Marvin Harrison out of the game. And that turned into a fourth down situation, then where Ohio State wind up kicking a field goal, if there had been a penalty, they would have had a first down in the red zone and had a very

decent chance at scoring a touchdown there. And the thing that was well, let's talk about that first, because there's another fact, if you want to throw it in there.

That I found interesting that wasn't maybe exactly what we had heard before. So what did you think of Ryan Day even go in there, Nathan?

Well, I think I understand why he wants to get a complete answer on it. I'm not sure that I would have been as inspired by the same way he was working logically for him.

The way he said it was, well, our medical people told me later that he lost consciousness, which is not what Mark, I remember Harrison actually had told us he hadn't lost consciousness in the moment of the play that night.

But he just had a can just just this can gentile is there, right? That's conflicting information.

But what about Harrison, remember being unconscious, if he actually was unconscious, and who knows what he wants to admit or say there in the locker room right after the game, and he just got yeah had a head injury.

So there's a lot of gray area there that it's that's why I don't think there's gray anymore. There's the gray area salt that's black and white now, Marvin Harrison Jr. lost consciousness.

The magical staff said that and told Ryan Day, right. I just meant that I don't think Marvin Harrison was like trying to intentionally mislead us in some of the fairies.

No, no, but let's, but let's deal with this fact that let's deal with this fact now since we did bring it up.

I don't know that that is a definitive indication of targeting, which I think was what you're about to talk about.

But it is a fact. Is it not a fact that contributes to the discussion in some way, Nathan? And again, it is contrary to what we thought it like you watched it and you thought it.

I thought in the moment you got knocked out.

And then Marvin said, no, I didn't. And now Ryan Day is saying, yeah, I did.

So for the record, that has to go on the record because this discussion is going to go on in Ohio State history.

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