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Ohio sheriff says local partnerships with feds on immigration ‘starting to ramp up’

PBS News Hour - Segments

PBS NewsHour

News, Daily News

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

As the Trump administration ramps up deportations, ICE has turned to local law enforcement through a program that has existed for decades. Under the agreements, sheriffs’ offices hold undocumented immigrants in jail before they are transferred. Butler County, Ohio, Sheriff Richard Jones reinstated his county’s partnership when Trump returned to office. He joined Geoff Bennett to discuss more. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

As the Trump administration ramps up deportation efforts nationwide, ICE has increasingly turned to local law enforcement through a program known as 287G, which has existed for nearly 30 years.

0:12.7

Under these agreements, sheriff's offices can hold undocumented immigrants in local jails before they are deported or transferred, and in some cases, officers are trained to

0:21.7

take part directly in ICE operations. Since January, the number of these agreements has

0:26.5

surged more than 640 percent. In Butler County, Ohio, Sheriff Richard Jones reinstated his

0:32.9

county's partnership with the federal government when President Trump returned to office. The county

0:37.4

has since

0:37.9

housed nearly 2,000 ICE detainees in its jails. And Sheriff Jones joins us now. Thanks for being

0:43.4

with us. Yes, sir. How are you doing today? I'm doing well, thank you. So as I understand it,

0:48.4

you have partnered with and stepped away from in some instances, partnerships on immigration enforcement

0:53.5

with the federal government across five presidencies. So from your vantage point, how does the Trump administration's

0:59.2

approach to immigration compare with what you saw and experienced under previous administrations?

1:05.5

That's pretty simple. Under Biden, it was hardly nothing. I fired them the four years they were there.

1:12.6

The most deportation we ever done when we had 287G,

1:16.9

the enforcement model and the jail model was under President Obama.

1:21.6

He was there eight years.

1:23.4

So he deported far more than Trump has in roughly five years.

1:28.3

What do you think people misunderstand about the Obama era deportations as compared to the present moment?

1:34.3

I think that it's in the past, it's history, depending on what TV channels or where they get their news.

1:42.3

They believe in whatever group they watch. But the actual

1:45.7

truth is, is that I've been in the deportation business and in fighting illegal immigration

1:52.9

for almost 22 years, five presidents, and I've actually been there. We deported when President Obama was president.

2:02.9

Eight years, he had eight years.

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