Ohio sheriff says local partnerships with feds on immigration ‘starting to ramp up’
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🗓️ 13 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | As the Trump administration ramps up deportation efforts nationwide, ICE has increasingly turned to local law enforcement through a program known as 287G, which has existed for nearly 30 years. |
| 0:12.7 | Under these agreements, sheriff's offices can hold undocumented immigrants in local jails before they are deported or transferred, and in some cases, officers are trained to |
| 0:21.7 | take part directly in ICE operations. Since January, the number of these agreements has |
| 0:26.5 | surged more than 640 percent. In Butler County, Ohio, Sheriff Richard Jones reinstated his |
| 0:32.9 | county's partnership with the federal government when President Trump returned to office. The county |
| 0:37.4 | has since |
| 0:37.9 | housed nearly 2,000 ICE detainees in its jails. And Sheriff Jones joins us now. Thanks for being |
| 0:43.4 | with us. Yes, sir. How are you doing today? I'm doing well, thank you. So as I understand it, |
| 0:48.4 | you have partnered with and stepped away from in some instances, partnerships on immigration enforcement |
| 0:53.5 | with the federal government across five presidencies. So from your vantage point, how does the Trump administration's |
| 0:59.2 | approach to immigration compare with what you saw and experienced under previous administrations? |
| 1:05.5 | That's pretty simple. Under Biden, it was hardly nothing. I fired them the four years they were there. |
| 1:12.6 | The most deportation we ever done when we had 287G, |
| 1:16.9 | the enforcement model and the jail model was under President Obama. |
| 1:21.6 | He was there eight years. |
| 1:23.4 | So he deported far more than Trump has in roughly five years. |
| 1:28.3 | What do you think people misunderstand about the Obama era deportations as compared to the present moment? |
| 1:34.3 | I think that it's in the past, it's history, depending on what TV channels or where they get their news. |
| 1:42.3 | They believe in whatever group they watch. But the actual |
| 1:45.7 | truth is, is that I've been in the deportation business and in fighting illegal immigration |
| 1:52.9 | for almost 22 years, five presidents, and I've actually been there. We deported when President Obama was president. |
| 2:02.9 | Eight years, he had eight years. |
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