I'm M. I'm A M. I'm A I'm Welcome, everybody.

Another episode of F.T. After Hours.

We are live on Facebook.

We're trying something new with a new camera here.

We'll see what happens.

Hopefully it works.

Crazy episode here today,

all kinds of things to talk about. So we'll get right into this. Joining us today in studio,

Mike Coolens. Hello, everyone. On the line, our crazy and depressed Canadian, and we'll get into that on why, Andre Rus and our special guest today if anybody doesn't know

them they will after this Brendan Shulman and you're actually I guess you're the lawyer now for

DJI right correct well technically I'm in charge of of global public policy which is

partly law and also you know working cooperatively with governments now originally

you were kind of on your own and I think most people actually kind of knew you from

the big case with Raphael Perker or Trappy and that's where we've got to know you

and I think we've talked to you before, actually.

And somehow working with DJI now, as you said, you're the vice president of policy and legal

affairs. How did that come about? I was curious to how you went from there all the way to the

top of the food chain kind of with DJI.

Well, it sounds like you already know I was pretty well known back in 2015 for some of the early advocacy work in the industry, including Trappie's case, but also on behalf of Texas

Equalsearch and Gene Robinson.

And after that, I did some work on behalf of AMA and some other parties concerning FA matters.

And then did that micro-UAS proposal for UAS America Fund.

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