Let's podcast alongside Joe Jillio.

I'm Joe Ovius inside Eford Studios downtown Raleigh.

Thanks to Empire Properties and thanks to Copiers Plus.

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If you are in charge of your office

and you see what the calendar says, March,

there's a really easy way to understand

where your print costs are going

because everybody's printing out brackets, Joe.

They are.

But these are things that you can understand and get a better

handle of. Thanks to Copiers Plus. Copiers dash plus.com. Figure out what you don't know when it comes to

your print in digital management needs. Were you that guy at the office printing out a bunch of brackets

back in the day? Have you printed out brackets yet? Unfortunately, I was that guy. Yeah,

of course you were. And then, you know, Selection Sunday, when I used to do the bracket for

the News and Observer, I mean, I had to print out a few because I don't know if you know this.

I don't like to use pencil. Yeah, I know. Even when I do crossword or Sudoku, I don't use pencil.

So when I mess up, I start over. And that means I got to print something else.

Now, I'll tell you what, they ended up could use copiers plus, at least back in the day.

There was one guy, I'm telling you, he would

like print out his Kindle. There would be like books. There'd be pages. I'm talking like 70,

80 pages on the printer when I would go over there. So hold up, hold up. And I would be like,

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