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All right, welcome back. We're on episode two. This episode we're going to be talking about uninkable carriers that's the the Chinese

man-made island bases specifically in the South China Sea I'm an Air Force guy so I

don't know much about the ocean but I I know who does, which is my co-host today, Roger.

So welcome Roger, and I hear you brought a friend that knows even more than us about this.

I did indeed, everyone. You've heard him before on the fighter pilot

podcast and Flounder and I've done some work together on the Gaza situation

Matt Flounder Arnie. Flounder introduce yourself please.

Yeah, thanks.

I appreciate the opportunity to come on the show here.

Yeah, I come from a Tomcat and Super Hornet background

is a Rio turned Whizzo. Also spent some time driving

aircraft carriers operated in the South China Sea during my command tour a few

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